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wjpierce
post May 15 2023, 07:56 AM
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Hello 914World.
I recently purchased a '74 914 racer and had it on track at Buttonwillow raceway last weekend. There were issues in that the car was last raced in 2014 but these were overcome.

Here is the major problem with the car. Body roll. Transitioning from a right to left turn requires neutralizing the car mid cormer and then allowing it to set. If that isn't done, the car wants to break loose when it sets into the next turn. I don't have a rear sway bar on the car and that is the first order of business but it seems impossible to me that a sway bar could overcome this much roll by itself.

I was thinking of trying coilover shocks to help with this. This might also allow us to corner weight the car.

What are your thoughts on this. Any other strategies that have worked for others with 914 racers?

I appreciate your input. Bill Pierce
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brilliantrot
post Jun 11 2023, 04:57 PM
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The 914 Aaron (yeahmag) has and I autocross seems to be pretty happy with the same setup except we have gone to 550lb-in rear springs to keep out of the bump stops on the rear shocks. We have since upgraded to some fancy Penske shocks that might allow us to drop down to a 450lb-in spring and add some compression valving to help keep it off the bump stops but running low, on Hoosier with data showing we have sustained 1.3G with peaks to 1.7G, and low friction bearing’s trailing arm pivots, we need a LOT of rear spring.
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post Jun 12 2023, 08:22 AM
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Thank you. I was thinking that heavier springs would help as well. Our next outing is Willow Springs and I'm going to try the sway bar but I think I'll also buy some springs if the car still rolls like it does. I am coming from a formula car and perhaps my expectations are unrealistic. Severe direction changes require treating the change as if there are two turns. One to settle the car and another to negotiate the turn. Simply changing direction rapidly will certainly cause the car to spin unless I sort of make it neutral as I change direction. I am explaining this badly, but perhaps you know what I mean. I am certain that setting the car is really allowing it to settle on the stops.
Thanks again, for your feedback.
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wjpierce   BODY ROLL   May 15 2023, 07:56 AM
stownsen914   From what you describe, it sounds like something i...   May 15 2023, 10:43 AM
Matt Romanowski   We need all the details on your setup. What size t...   May 15 2023, 11:39 AM
slivel   We need all the details on your setup. What size ...   May 15 2023, 12:26 PM
brant   What diameter is the current front anti sway bar? ...   May 15 2023, 01:25 PM
wjpierce   Thanks everybody. I've obviously got a lot of...   May 15 2023, 11:23 PM
infraredcalvin   In addition to current setup (and pics of course)....   May 15 2023, 11:25 PM
yeahmag   All the requests for more info are definitely on t...   May 16 2023, 02:38 PM
sixaddict   I have never used a rear bar…..and don’t belie...   May 19 2023, 09:36 AM
brant   I run an aftermarket (larger diameter) rear bar wi...   May 19 2023, 09:47 AM
wjpierce   I have the information many have requested. The ca...   Jun 10 2023, 09:43 PM
brilliantrot   The 914 Aaron (yeahmag) has and I autocross seems ...   Jun 11 2023, 04:57 PM
wjpierce   Thank you. I was thinking that heavier springs wo...   Jun 12 2023, 08:22 AM
stownsen914   What you are describing is the car "taking a ...   Jun 12 2023, 03:34 PM
brilliantrot   Can't remember if I mentioned, but is there a...   Jun 12 2023, 04:44 PM
campbellcj   I went from 200's or 225's to 350's al...   Jun 13 2023, 10:23 AM
yeahmag   What Evan said... It seems counter productive, but...   Jun 13 2023, 12:13 PM
brilliantrot   The ability to hold the car at angle really helps ...   Jun 13 2023, 09:44 PM
Brett W   Here is the major problem with the car. Body ro...   Jun 18 2023, 10:24 AM


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