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> @StarBear L Jetronic Temp Sensor II AFM
wonkipop
post Jun 5 2023, 03:12 PM
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@StarBear .


here is what i have on the Temp Sensor II inbuilt into the AFM on the 1.8 L Jetronic.

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i could be wrong but i don't think there is any effective way to test the air temp sensor in the AFM on our adam/eve in the garden of eden L Jetronic system. that sensor is not wired in separately.

but maybe there is an expert here who knows.

- in relation to the problem you are having with hot days and ultra high humidity causing the idle to drop to barely running - i'm not sure the symptom fits a faulty Temp Sensor II in the AFM. others here might know better. I would not have thought a faulty sensor would cause that dramatic a result. Temp Sensor 1 (CHT) - yes. but Temp Sensor II no.

i am sure @Van B will pipe in with a more learned view.

I would have thought Temp Sensor 2 fault would make the car run rich.
I think that is how it would work. but again i am probably wrong.
i'd have to think about it.
most trouble shooting literature i can dig up says failure mode causes car to run richer generally. increased fuel consumption.
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post Jun 16 2023, 07:16 PM
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@StarBear

mine is the same as your original.
has the bosch and VW part #
suspect its interior is the same as yours as well.
mine is a jan 74 car about 2 months after yours.

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i think the way it works with branded parts that have the car manufacturers logo as well as the component manufacturer numbers and logo is that these are what were originally installed on the production line. as time goes on replacement spare parts tend to have only the component manufacturer's branding and part #.

we found the same thing when we pulled the flywheel off to do the clutch a couple of years ago.
the flywheel washer was original factory installed as was the clutch (long obsolete rubber core clutch). the washer was branded with VW logo. also carried the component makers logo which is the other graphic stamped on it. i forget whose graphic that is but somewhere i have an old VW book that lists all these different manufacturers and logos. these days the replacement washers have long since ceased to be VW branded.

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i think the AFMs that carry the VW logo are the original babies.
although they could also have been original production line installed that have been rebuilt. the one you have without the VW branding is a later Bosch spare part.
it looks to me that even though they are 6 pin the interior components installed are later improvements along the way, including giving you access to the temp sensor.

i have not taken my apart but i'm guessing like the original you have pulled off and opened mine has no capacity to test that sensor like the ones that have the separate wires and plugs.

i'll take on board @clayperrine 's comment and info and file that away.

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wonkipop   @StarBear L Jetronic Temp Sensor II AFM   Jun 5 2023, 03:12 PM
StarBear   Got it! Will add to my other write up and coll...   Jun 5 2023, 07:50 PM
MartyYeoman   :popcorn:   Jun 5 2023, 10:41 PM
ClayPerrine   Temp sensor 2 is used for gross fuel adjustments.....   Jun 6 2023, 06:33 AM
Rob-O   Don’t want to get off topic but isn’t the temp...   Jun 6 2023, 10:14 AM
StarBear   Don’t want to get off topic but isn’t the tem...   Jun 6 2023, 11:28 AM
wonkipop   Don’t want to get off topic but isn’t the tem...   Jun 6 2023, 08:34 PM
StarBear   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Jun 6 2023, 12:47 PM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Jun 6 2023, 04:48 PM
StarBear   As always, seems like yet again we’re “special...   Jun 6 2023, 06:59 PM
wonkipop   As always, seems like yet again we’re “specia...   Jun 7 2023, 04:52 AM
ClayPerrine   In an 74 L-Jet air flow meter, the temp sensor sh...   Jun 7 2023, 05:38 AM
Van B   Sorry for being out of pocket guys… Temp just t...   Jun 7 2023, 04:42 PM
wonkipop   @Van B those middle two tables you posted are fo...   Jun 9 2023, 12:44 AM
Van B   I yeah that was frustrating to not be able to test...   Jun 9 2023, 08:39 AM
StarBear   Great discourse! Informative and methodical, t...   Jun 9 2023, 09:32 AM
wonkipop   Great discourse! Informative and methodical, ...   Jun 9 2023, 03:49 PM
ClayPerrine   There is a way to test the temp sender in a 6-Pin ...   Jun 9 2023, 10:23 AM
wonkipop   There is a way to test the temp sender in a 6-Pin...   Jun 9 2023, 03:41 PM
ClayPerrine   Finally got up int he attic this morning to get an...   Jun 13 2023, 06:32 AM
StarBear   @clayperrine Very informative! Questions: Doe...   Jun 13 2023, 08:55 AM
ClayPerrine   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jun 13 2023, 09:27 AM
StarBear   And another twist - I have a supposed NOS AFM for ...   Jun 13 2023, 09:36 AM
StarBear   Have data for the NOS/lightly used AFM. Approximat...   Jun 13 2023, 12:01 PM
wonkipop   @clayperrine thanks for the AFM pics and info. f...   Jun 13 2023, 09:03 PM
StarBear   Now this just got real interesting! Opened th...   Jun 15 2023, 10:34 AM
StarBear   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sh...   Jun 15 2023, 03:06 PM
ClayPerrine   The original CAN be tested. But the values will be...   Jun 16 2023, 05:57 AM
StarBear   The original CAN be tested. But the values will b...   Jun 16 2023, 07:24 AM
StarBear   Ok; tested the current unit per Clay's suggest...   Jun 16 2023, 02:26 PM
wonkipop   @StarBear mine is the same as your original. has...   Jun 16 2023, 07:16 PM


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