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| Unobtanium-inc |
Jul 27 2023, 11:29 AM
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In the future Porsche line-up, the 911 will stand alone.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-tran...els-2023-07-26/ |
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| mate914 |
Aug 17 2023, 05:10 AM
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Matt ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 27-February 09 From: Eagles mere, PA Member No.: 10,102 Region Association: North East States
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If oil coming out of the ground is so bad. Why is lithium and cobalt coming out of the ground good? EV's are toys for rich people. That's what the owners tell me as I install charging outlets in peoples homes. Its just and a new toy.
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| flipb |
Aug 17 2023, 06:47 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,871 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 10,752 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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If oil coming out of the ground is so bad. Why is lithium and cobalt coming out of the ground good? EV's are toys for rich people. That's what the owners tell me as I install charging outlets in peoples homes. Its just and a new toy. Matt I love it when a rando on a message board tells me that my DD for the past seven years, in which I've driven countless commutes, carpools, road trips, loads of gear from Costco & Home Depot, while spending nearly zero on maintenance... is a toy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) It is, without a doubt, the most practical vehicle I've ever had. |
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Aug 17 2023, 08:17 AM
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If oil coming out of the ground is so bad. Why is lithium and cobalt coming out of the ground good? EV's are toys for rich people. That's what the owners tell me as I install charging outlets in peoples homes. Its just and a new toy. Matt I love it when a rando on a message board tells me that my DD for the past seven years, in which I've driven countless commutes, carpools, road trips, loads of gear from Costco & Home Depot, while spending nearly zero on maintenance... is a toy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) It is, without a doubt, the most practical vehicle I've ever had. From this guide the only thing you should not be maintaining is an ICE. With all that weight I’d think brakes, tires and axle bearings (whatever that may be on an EV) would be something I’d be checking often. And I’d imagine that the cost you’d put out to maintain an ICE will come when replacing the batteries. I had to look Rando up... https://cyberbackpack.com/blogs/tesla-cyber...ASAAEgImK_D_BwE |
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Aug 17 2023, 08:47 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,871 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 10,752 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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From this guide the only thing you should not be maintaining is an ICE. With all that weight I’d think brakes, tires and axle bearings (whatever that may be on an EV) would be something I’d be checking often. And I’d imagine that the cost you’d put out to maintain an ICE will come when replacing the batteries. I had to look Rando up... https://cyberbackpack.com/blogs/tesla-cyber...ASAAEgImK_D_BwE I'm at 99K miles, and the brake pads are in great shape. Regen does most of the work. Unless it's a panic stop, I usually let Regen slow me down to ~15mph or less before using the friction brakes to come to a complete stop. I replace the cabin air filter annually on my own. I top off windshield washer fluid and change the wipers on my own. I also replaced the headlight bulbs once, which was a PITA that involved removing the front wheel well liners. A lot of Tesla owners complain about tire consumption but it hasn't been too bad for me. I just put on a new set after the Continentals lasted me around 30-40K miles. My battery still has somewhere around 85% of its original capacity. I haven't done a 100% charge in a while to check... they recommend charging to 80-90% on a normal daily basis. I probably should be on the lookout for wheel bearings and suspension bushings. I can go a couple of years without a Tesla tech looking at the car and finding things to recommend; it's easy to not think much about it. |
| mate914 |
Aug 17 2023, 07:15 PM
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Matt ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 27-February 09 From: Eagles mere, PA Member No.: 10,102 Region Association: North East States
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I think your electric car is a good thing. I am glad you can afford it, but most tax payers can not. Wait, is not Fairfax the richest county in the United states? I said toy an it hurt you? What is a 914, but a great toy!
Matt From this guide the only thing you should not be maintaining is an ICE. With all that weight I’d think brakes, tires and axle bearings (whatever that may be on an EV) would be something I’d be checking often. And I’d imagine that the cost you’d put out to maintain an ICE will come when replacing the batteries. I had to look Rando up... https://cyberbackpack.com/blogs/tesla-cyber...ASAAEgImK_D_BwE I'm at 99K miles, and the brake pads are in great shape. Regen does most of the work. Unless it's a panic stop, I usually let Regen slow me down to ~15mph or less before using the friction brakes to come to a complete stop. I replace the cabin air filter annually on my own. I top off windshield washer fluid and change the wipers on my own. I also replaced the headlight bulbs once, which was a PITA that involved removing the front wheel well liners. A lot of Tesla owners complain about tire consumption but it hasn't been too bad for me. I just put on a new set after the Continentals lasted me around 30-40K miles. My battery still has somewhere around 85% of its original capacity. I haven't done a 100% charge in a while to check... they recommend charging to 80-90% on a normal daily basis. I probably should be on the lookout for wheel bearings and suspension bushings. I can go a couple of years without a Tesla tech looking at the car and finding things to recommend; it's easy to not think much about it. |
| vitamin914 |
Aug 18 2023, 07:10 AM
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Maybe you should have called flipb's EV an appliance?
Just like an EV, my fridge runs on electricity and I haven't needed to do anything to it for 7 years. Of course maybe I should throw out that moldy thing growing in the corner... A DD is an appliance in my eyes - what else could you call a Corolla? I definitely agree that the 914 is a great toy... I spend more time playing with it than driving it and I don't take it to Costco either. EVs have their place and will become more common (hopefully less expensive too). The hurt will come when the battery reaches an unreliable state and needs to be replaced. Congrats to the early adopters for helping push the technology along. Right now every EV user is getting a free ride when it comes to road maintenance taxes. Gasoline is loaded with taxes in Canada... ~$5 (USD) per gallon for regular. Every EV is being subsidized by ICE vehicles. Once we reach a threshold with lots of EVs, or no new ICE cars to buy, governments are going figure out they need to tax them. Expect having to go to the DMV to report your EV milage (with verification) and pay a per mile tax each year or month... There is no reliable way with at home charging to tell which electron charged the car and which one ran your fridge. Of course since the EVs are all "connected" Elon could just send you a monthly tax bill knowing how far you've driven when and where... Big brother is tracking you... So leave your cell phone at home, drive the 914, give big brother the finger and enjoy the freedom (while you can). I think your electric car is a good thing. I am glad you can afford it, but most tax payers can not. Wait, is not Fairfax the richest county in the United states? I said toy an it hurt you? What is a 914, but a great toy! Matt |
| wonkipop |
Aug 18 2023, 02:22 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,480 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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Maybe you should have called flipb's EV an appliance? Just like an EV, my fridge runs on electricity and I haven't needed to do anything to it for 7 years. Of course maybe I should throw out that moldy thing growing in the corner... A DD is an appliance in my eyes - what else could you call a Corolla? I definitely agree that the 914 is a great toy... I spend more time playing with it than driving it and I don't take it to Costco either. EVs have their place and will become more common (hopefully less expensive too). The hurt will come when the battery reaches an unreliable state and needs to be replaced. Congrats to the early adopters for helping push the technology along. Right now every EV user is getting a free ride when it comes to road maintenance taxes. Gasoline is loaded with taxes in Canada... ~$5 (USD) per gallon for regular. Every EV is being subsidized by ICE vehicles. Once we reach a threshold with lots of EVs, or no new ICE cars to buy, governments are going figure out they need to tax them. Expect having to go to the DMV to report your EV milage (with verification) and pay a per mile tax each year or month... There is no reliable way with at home charging to tell which electron charged the car and which one ran your fridge. Of course since the EVs are all "connected" Elon could just send you a monthly tax bill knowing how far you've driven when and where... Big brother is tracking you... So leave your cell phone at home, drive the 914, give big brother the finger and enjoy the freedom (while you can). I think your electric car is a good thing. I am glad you can afford it, but most tax payers can not. Wait, is not Fairfax the richest county in the United states? I said toy an it hurt you? What is a 914, but a great toy! Matt govt. is already taxing them here via the annual registration fee. for that very reason. greens party boo hoo-ed when tax was introduced and stamped their feet. went the moral high ground argument about cleaning up the world. certain lobby groups hit back pointing out relative weight of EV means every single EV = 2 ICE cars pounding at the potholes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) won't be long before the electric scooter, electric bike goons have to have a driver's license and rego plates. cops are already complaining to govt. they can't book em for speeding or breaking road rules. and since they lowered town speed limits to absurdly low levels about 1 year ago (snuck all the 30kmh 40mh 25 kmh signs in during the vid lockdowns) the silent death scooter kooks are easily breaking the hoon laws designed to turn all us car drivers into "dangerous criminals". |
Unobtanium-inc Looks like the 911 will be the last man standing. Jul 27 2023, 11:29 AM
914Sixer So Europe is struggling to keep the power grid up ... Jul 27 2023, 11:46 AM
73-914
So Europe is struggling to keep the power grid up... Jul 28 2023, 07:54 AM
Root_Werks Nothing against EV's, heck, in 1903 97% of veh... Jul 27 2023, 12:00 PM
VaccaRabite There are places where they work, and places where... Jul 27 2023, 12:14 PM
Unobtanium-inc
I hope to have my 4Runner for another 16 years.... Jul 27 2023, 12:38 PM
dirk2056 :flag1: Good luck with the EV world stopped at a B... Jul 27 2023, 12:52 PM
Unobtanium-inc
:flag1: Good luck with the EV world stopped at a ... Jul 27 2023, 01:03 PM
Txbentleyboy
:flag1: Good luck with the EV world stopped at a ... Jul 28 2023, 10:08 AM
dirk2056 :beer2: How true :agree: The longer you stay more... Jul 29 2023, 05:56 AM
930cabman How much do we know about the Shell racing fuel, I... Jul 27 2023, 12:52 PM
targa72e Ok, So my take on EV. If you own a house with a ga... Jul 27 2023, 11:26 PM
VaccaRabite
Ok, So my take on EV. If you own a house with a g... Jul 28 2023, 06:23 AM
flipb
Ok, So my take on EV. If you own a house with a g... Jul 28 2023, 07:14 AM
r_towle We have a plug in hybrid.
In the northeast we have... Jul 28 2023, 06:36 AM
horizontally-opposed
Ok, So my take on EV. If you own a house with a g... Aug 13 2023, 12:25 PM
wonkipop
Ok, So my take on EV. If you own a house with a ... Aug 14 2023, 03:40 AM
jd74914
but asleep its a different matter.
Very true and... Aug 14 2023, 10:45 AM
horizontally-opposed
[b]while you are out to the world is when you are... Aug 14 2023, 02:18 PM
Jim C Cargo ship with over 2,00 cars including 500 EVs l... Jul 28 2023, 07:52 AM
VaccaRabite
Cargo ship with over 2,00 cars including 500 EVs ... Jul 28 2023, 08:18 AM
Jim C
Cargo ship with over 2,00 cars including 500 EVs... Jul 28 2023, 08:42 AM
wonkipop
[quote name='VaccaRabite' post='3092134' date='Ju... Jul 29 2023, 03:36 AM
technicalninja
Cargo ship with over 2,00 cars including 500 EVs... Jul 28 2023, 09:56 AM
KELTY360
:lol: That has to make the list for post of the... Jul 28 2023, 10:21 AM
930cabman
:lol: That has to make the list for post of th... Jul 28 2023, 10:32 AM
Dave_Darling Of course, it's a bogus etymology. Just like ... Jul 28 2023, 05:41 PM
930cabman
Of course, it's a bogus etymology. Just like... Jul 30 2023, 07:38 AM
technicalninja I always thought it was Fornication Under Consent ... Jul 28 2023, 07:43 PM
wonkipop
I always thought it was Fornication Under Consent... Jul 29 2023, 04:02 AM
technicalninja My youngest son Michael was a Track Marshall for M... Jul 29 2023, 06:32 AM
thomasotten Imagine a parking garage with 500 vehicles, and ju... Jul 31 2023, 08:46 AM
VaccaRabite I fully agree the Lithium ion batteries are bad te... Jul 31 2023, 10:52 AM
wonkipop check out the latest on the fremantle highway.
the... Aug 12 2023, 07:03 AM
TomE I worked in the electric utility industry for 30 y... Aug 12 2023, 09:28 AM
930cabman
I worked in the electric utility industry for 30 ... Aug 13 2023, 08:32 AM
TomE
I worked in the electric utility industry for 30... Aug 19 2023, 12:07 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='930cabman' post='3095365' date='Aug ... Aug 19 2023, 05:47 PM
mate914 We the tax payer... Government has no money, excep... Aug 19 2023, 06:38 PM
sixaddict So EV is supposed to help the environment…..as l... Aug 12 2023, 03:05 PM
type2man Car companies will sell the cars that consumers bu... Aug 12 2023, 09:25 PM
mate914 I don't agree with that. The free market use ... Aug 13 2023, 07:09 AM
mate914 I was wrong Ford lost 4.5 billion.
I don't... Aug 13 2023, 07:14 AM
930cabman
I was wrong Ford lost 4.5 billion.
[quote name... Aug 13 2023, 08:34 AM
campbellcj I'm a fan/convert as well but totally agree th... Aug 13 2023, 07:58 AM
technicalninja I'm a 40-year experience gear head who loves h... Aug 13 2023, 08:53 AM
vitamin914
Now, you're going to pry the keys to my ICE p... Aug 13 2023, 09:28 AM
technicalninja I'm going to wait for the imaginary "powe... Aug 13 2023, 01:30 PM
wonkipop
I'm going to wait for the imaginary "pow... Aug 14 2023, 03:31 AM
flipb The challenge with EV batteries is that manufactur... Aug 14 2023, 12:10 PM
flipb Interesting twist, if this is confirmed. Of course... Aug 16 2023, 01:35 PM
wonkipop
Interesting twist, if this is confirmed. Of cours... Aug 17 2023, 03:44 AM
wonkipop
Interesting twist, if this is confirmed. Of cours... Aug 17 2023, 11:08 PM
gnomefabtech I've been driving some kind of EV as my in tow... Aug 16 2023, 06:00 PM
Superhawk996
It's just a matter of time before the power g... Aug 16 2023, 07:51 PM
flipb
Maybe you should have called flipb's EV an ap... Aug 18 2023, 07:53 AM

Superhawk996
There are now EVs for sale across a wide band of ... Aug 18 2023, 08:28 AM

flipb
[quote name='flipb' post='3096371' date='Aug 18 2... Aug 18 2023, 08:49 AM

Superhawk996
[quote name='flipb' post='3096371' date='Aug 18 ... Aug 18 2023, 09:05 AM
Superhawk996
EVs have their place and will become more common... Aug 18 2023, 08:09 AM
vitamin914
Maybe you should have called flipb's EV an a... Aug 18 2023, 04:09 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='vitamin914' post='3096352' date='Au... Aug 19 2023, 02:36 AM
wonkipop ps - as an aside @flipb
i am by no means an elec... Aug 17 2023, 11:36 PM
technicalninja I wanted an Insight as well.
I wanted to do bad t... Aug 17 2023, 11:55 PM
wonkipop
I wanted an Insight as well.
I wanted to do bad ... Aug 18 2023, 03:10 AM
VaccaRabite I'm fighting for a new job that would require ... Aug 18 2023, 08:16 AM
flipb
I'm fighting for a new job that would require... Aug 18 2023, 08:34 AM

VaccaRabite
I'm fighting for a new job that would requir... Aug 18 2023, 10:38 AM
Spoke
I'm fighting for a new job that would require... Aug 18 2023, 07:12 PM
930cabman Dumb question:
How does one proceed when they run... Aug 19 2023, 06:46 PM
wonkipop
Dumb question:
How does one proceed when they ru... Aug 26 2023, 03:29 AM
mate914 They bring a gas powered generator to give enough ... Aug 26 2023, 06:47 AM
Superhawk996
They bring a gas powered generator to give enough... Aug 26 2023, 07:03 AM
Spoke Very wise decision by Porsche to keep the 911 an I... Aug 25 2023, 11:40 PM
Superhawk996 EVs are the future of automobiles.
Sadly, EVs ar... Aug 26 2023, 06:33 AM
horizontally-opposed
So - they aren’t the same topology at all. T... Aug 26 2023, 10:44 AM
Spoke
So - they aren’t the same topology at all. Th... Aug 26 2023, 11:38 AM
horizontally-opposed
Maybe we're talking about 2 different topolo... Aug 26 2023, 12:05 PM
Superhawk996
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3098115' date='A... Aug 26 2023, 12:10 PM
Spoke but it certainly isn’t an EV in the sense that i... Aug 26 2023, 06:24 PM
930cabman And how is this better than a fine tuned ICE?
May... Aug 26 2023, 06:07 AM
vitamin914 New technology to convert your all-electric Taycan... Aug 26 2023, 11:31 AM
930cabman Didn't the professor have an EV in the 1890... Aug 26 2023, 12:13 PM
Superhawk996
Didn't the professor have an EV in the 1890... Aug 26 2023, 12:20 PM
technicalninja Most "hybrids" use an electrical motor i... Aug 26 2023, 12:51 PM
wonkipop unloading some top roasted and part damaged EVs of... Aug 31 2023, 02:24 PM
Superhawk996 4000 lbs of toxic environmental waste. :headbang... Aug 31 2023, 07:13 PM
wonkipop
4000 lbs of toxic environmental waste. :headban... Sep 1 2023, 02:59 AM![]() ![]() |
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