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> Looks like the 911 will be the last man standing.
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post Jul 27 2023, 11:29 AM
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In the future Porsche line-up, the 911 will stand alone.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-tran...els-2023-07-26/

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Most "hybrids" use an electrical motor in tandem with an ICE engine and both propulsion systems actually drive the wheels.
This is hideously complex regarding the smooth application of power. It doesn't improve the gas mileage enough to make the initial expense and the battery maintenance worthwhile IMO.
Years ago, my local newspaper did a cost comparison and found out just how far you would have to drive the hybrid to break even over a standard gas engine.

The only car that scored nicely was the Toyota Prius. Compared to a base Camary you would need to drive the Prius 50K to break even.

Some of the other hybrids were in the 500K range and this comparison did NOT take battery life into the equation...

Prius are a different breed of cat.
2nd gen and up, they are very close to the diesel locomotive.
All of the motive force comes from an electric engine. The ICE engine drives a big-assed generator (which doubles as the starter) and depending on your driving style it can really achieve 50+ MPG.
One of my buddies bought one new for his wife.
She drove it from Cresson to Irvine for 10+ years.
Just after they bought it new, I named it!

I referred to it as "The Anti-Car".

A car for people who do NOT want to drive!
She got 51 MPG for 195k worth of mileage.
They brought it to me at 195K and Jennifer said "I HATE this car, it's killing my back!
I'm tired of driving it and want something else. Find something wrong with it so I won't feel bad about getting rid of it."

I went over it with an electron microscope.
Couldn't find shit wrong with it at 200K.
It didn't even need front brakes.
Toughest little car I've ever seen.
Drop dead boring to drive but drop dead reliable as well...

Blake, my friend, a car nut had an Infinity Q45. Super nice 400 hp hiway missile.
It had a bunch of expensive stuff going out on it.

I said "Dude, you're screwed! You need to get rid of the Q, get Jen something she likes, and drive The Anti-Car until you get one of your Fieros up!"

He drove it for 2 years. Cresson to Ft. Worth, another 70k worth. He sold it to a work mate we both know, and that guy is still using the AC today for his daughter,
It's over 340K now and very little has broken...

Blake consistently got 38 mpg out of it.
Damn close to a normal 4cyl Camary.
You have to drive it like "someone who does not want to drive" to get the mileage!
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Unobtanium-inc   Looks like the 911 will be the last man standing.   Jul 27 2023, 11:29 AM
914Sixer   So Europe is struggling to keep the power grid up ...   Jul 27 2023, 11:46 AM
73-914   So Europe is struggling to keep the power grid up...   Jul 28 2023, 07:54 AM
Root_Werks   Nothing against EV's, heck, in 1903 97% of veh...   Jul 27 2023, 12:00 PM
VaccaRabite   There are places where they work, and places where...   Jul 27 2023, 12:14 PM
Unobtanium-inc   I hope to have my 4Runner for another 16 years....   Jul 27 2023, 12:38 PM
dirk2056   :flag1: Good luck with the EV world stopped at a B...   Jul 27 2023, 12:52 PM
Unobtanium-inc   :flag1: Good luck with the EV world stopped at a ...   Jul 27 2023, 01:03 PM
Txbentleyboy   :flag1: Good luck with the EV world stopped at a ...   Jul 28 2023, 10:08 AM
dirk2056   :beer2: How true :agree: The longer you stay more...   Jul 29 2023, 05:56 AM
930cabman   How much do we know about the Shell racing fuel, I...   Jul 27 2023, 12:52 PM
targa72e   Ok, So my take on EV. If you own a house with a ga...   Jul 27 2023, 11:26 PM
VaccaRabite   Ok, So my take on EV. If you own a house with a g...   Jul 28 2023, 06:23 AM
flipb   Ok, So my take on EV. If you own a house with a g...   Jul 28 2023, 07:14 AM
r_towle   We have a plug in hybrid. In the northeast we have...   Jul 28 2023, 06:36 AM
horizontally-opposed   Ok, So my take on EV. If you own a house with a g...   Aug 13 2023, 12:25 PM
wonkipop   Ok, So my take on EV. If you own a house with a ...   Aug 14 2023, 03:40 AM
jd74914   but asleep its a different matter. Very true and...   Aug 14 2023, 10:45 AM
horizontally-opposed   [b]while you are out to the world is when you are...   Aug 14 2023, 02:18 PM
Jim C   Cargo ship with over 2,00 cars including 500 EVs l...   Jul 28 2023, 07:52 AM
VaccaRabite   Cargo ship with over 2,00 cars including 500 EVs ...   Jul 28 2023, 08:18 AM
Jim C   Cargo ship with over 2,00 cars including 500 EVs...   Jul 28 2023, 08:42 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='VaccaRabite' post='3092134' date='Ju...   Jul 29 2023, 03:36 AM
technicalninja   Cargo ship with over 2,00 cars including 500 EVs...   Jul 28 2023, 09:56 AM
KELTY360   :lol: That has to make the list for post of the...   Jul 28 2023, 10:21 AM
930cabman   :lol: That has to make the list for post of th...   Jul 28 2023, 10:32 AM
Dave_Darling   Of course, it's a bogus etymology. Just like ...   Jul 28 2023, 05:41 PM
930cabman   Of course, it's a bogus etymology. Just like...   Jul 30 2023, 07:38 AM
technicalninja   I always thought it was Fornication Under Consent ...   Jul 28 2023, 07:43 PM
wonkipop   I always thought it was Fornication Under Consent...   Jul 29 2023, 04:02 AM
technicalninja   My youngest son Michael was a Track Marshall for M...   Jul 29 2023, 06:32 AM
thomasotten   Imagine a parking garage with 500 vehicles, and ju...   Jul 31 2023, 08:46 AM
VaccaRabite   I fully agree the Lithium ion batteries are bad te...   Jul 31 2023, 10:52 AM
wonkipop   check out the latest on the fremantle highway. the...   Aug 12 2023, 07:03 AM
TomE   I worked in the electric utility industry for 30 y...   Aug 12 2023, 09:28 AM
930cabman   I worked in the electric utility industry for 30 ...   Aug 13 2023, 08:32 AM
TomE   I worked in the electric utility industry for 30...   Aug 19 2023, 12:07 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='930cabman' post='3095365' date='Aug ...   Aug 19 2023, 05:47 PM
mate914   We the tax payer... Government has no money, excep...   Aug 19 2023, 06:38 PM
sixaddict   So EV is supposed to help the environment…..as l...   Aug 12 2023, 03:05 PM
type2man   Car companies will sell the cars that consumers bu...   Aug 12 2023, 09:25 PM
mate914   I don't agree with that. The free market use ...   Aug 13 2023, 07:09 AM
mate914   I was wrong Ford lost 4.5 billion. I don't...   Aug 13 2023, 07:14 AM
930cabman   I was wrong Ford lost 4.5 billion. [quote name...   Aug 13 2023, 08:34 AM
campbellcj   I'm a fan/convert as well but totally agree th...   Aug 13 2023, 07:58 AM
technicalninja   I'm a 40-year experience gear head who loves h...   Aug 13 2023, 08:53 AM
vitamin914   Now, you're going to pry the keys to my ICE p...   Aug 13 2023, 09:28 AM
technicalninja   I'm going to wait for the imaginary "powe...   Aug 13 2023, 01:30 PM
wonkipop   I'm going to wait for the imaginary "pow...   Aug 14 2023, 03:31 AM
flipb   The challenge with EV batteries is that manufactur...   Aug 14 2023, 12:10 PM
flipb   Interesting twist, if this is confirmed. Of course...   Aug 16 2023, 01:35 PM
wonkipop   Interesting twist, if this is confirmed. Of cours...   Aug 17 2023, 03:44 AM
wonkipop   Interesting twist, if this is confirmed. Of cours...   Aug 17 2023, 11:08 PM
gnomefabtech   I've been driving some kind of EV as my in tow...   Aug 16 2023, 06:00 PM
Superhawk996   It's just a matter of time before the power g...   Aug 16 2023, 07:51 PM
mate914   If oil coming out of the ground is so bad. Why is ...   Aug 17 2023, 05:10 AM
flipb   If oil coming out of the ground is so bad. Why is...   Aug 17 2023, 06:47 AM
Shivers   [quote name='mate914' post='3096117' date='Aug 17...   Aug 17 2023, 08:17 AM
flipb   From this guide the only thing you should not be ...   Aug 17 2023, 08:47 AM
mate914   I think your electric car is a good thing. I am gl...   Aug 17 2023, 07:15 PM
vitamin914   Maybe you should have called flipb's EV an app...   Aug 18 2023, 07:10 AM
flipb   Maybe you should have called flipb's EV an ap...   Aug 18 2023, 07:53 AM
Superhawk996   There are now EVs for sale across a wide band of ...   Aug 18 2023, 08:28 AM
flipb   [quote name='flipb' post='3096371' date='Aug 18 2...   Aug 18 2023, 08:49 AM
Superhawk996   [quote name='flipb' post='3096371' date='Aug 18 ...   Aug 18 2023, 09:05 AM
Superhawk996   EVs have their place and will become more common...   Aug 18 2023, 08:09 AM
wonkipop   Maybe you should have called flipb's EV an ap...   Aug 18 2023, 02:22 PM
vitamin914   Maybe you should have called flipb's EV an a...   Aug 18 2023, 04:09 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='vitamin914' post='3096352' date='Au...   Aug 19 2023, 02:36 AM
wonkipop   ps - as an aside @flipb i am by no means an elec...   Aug 17 2023, 11:36 PM
technicalninja   I wanted an Insight as well. I wanted to do bad t...   Aug 17 2023, 11:55 PM
wonkipop   I wanted an Insight as well. I wanted to do bad ...   Aug 18 2023, 03:10 AM
VaccaRabite   I'm fighting for a new job that would require ...   Aug 18 2023, 08:16 AM
flipb   I'm fighting for a new job that would require...   Aug 18 2023, 08:34 AM
VaccaRabite   I'm fighting for a new job that would requir...   Aug 18 2023, 10:38 AM
Spoke   I'm fighting for a new job that would require...   Aug 18 2023, 07:12 PM
930cabman   Dumb question: How does one proceed when they run...   Aug 19 2023, 06:46 PM
wonkipop   Dumb question: How does one proceed when they ru...   Aug 26 2023, 03:29 AM
mate914   They bring a gas powered generator to give enough ...   Aug 26 2023, 06:47 AM
Superhawk996   They bring a gas powered generator to give enough...   Aug 26 2023, 07:03 AM
Spoke   Very wise decision by Porsche to keep the 911 an I...   Aug 25 2023, 11:40 PM
Superhawk996   EVs are the future of automobiles. Sadly, EVs ar...   Aug 26 2023, 06:33 AM
horizontally-opposed   So - they aren’t the same topology at all. T...   Aug 26 2023, 10:44 AM
Spoke   So - they aren’t the same topology at all. Th...   Aug 26 2023, 11:38 AM
horizontally-opposed   Maybe we're talking about 2 different topolo...   Aug 26 2023, 12:05 PM
Superhawk996   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='3098115' date='A...   Aug 26 2023, 12:10 PM
Spoke   but it certainly isn’t an EV in the sense that i...   Aug 26 2023, 06:24 PM
930cabman   And how is this better than a fine tuned ICE? May...   Aug 26 2023, 06:07 AM
vitamin914   New technology to convert your all-electric Taycan...   Aug 26 2023, 11:31 AM
930cabman   Didn't the professor have an EV in the 1890...   Aug 26 2023, 12:13 PM
Superhawk996   Didn't the professor have an EV in the 1890...   Aug 26 2023, 12:20 PM
technicalninja   Most "hybrids" use an electrical motor i...   Aug 26 2023, 12:51 PM
wonkipop   unloading some top roasted and part damaged EVs of...   Aug 31 2023, 02:24 PM
Superhawk996   4000 lbs of toxic environmental waste. :headbang...   Aug 31 2023, 07:13 PM
wonkipop   4000 lbs of toxic environmental waste. :headban...   Sep 1 2023, 02:59 AM


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