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> Best Location for AF Sensor Bung, UPDATE: I got a SS muffler, what you all say now...
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post Apr 22 2023, 12:39 AM
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I am going Microsquirt. My current muffler right before I tried cleaning the dust off the part label and it just incinerated is a Dansk 1.8 muffler from what the PO said.
I did have to reweld and rotate tip to exit correctly under the valence.
Maybe it was a bus muffler?

Anyone have any experience on where to place the AF sensor bung, too bad its not on the car to check for clearance/obstruction issues.

I was thinking of welding it on the tail pipe where the black circle I marked off.

I could buy a new exhaust with the bung attached, but this is my attempt at going Microsquirt without spending too much and work with what I have.

Anyone cut one up before and know of a good spot?

Thanks in advance.

Ted

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post Oct 13 2023, 10:01 PM
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I would need to figure out where all primaries came together inside that muffler before I could really say.

You don't have to actually sniff all 4 cylinders to be reasonably accurate.

The difference between cylinders is less as your equipment improves.

Using L-jet is far less precise than a digital modern unit.

Modern injectors (Bosch EV14s) are more precise than the early injectors.

FI (any) is far more precise than carburetors and so on.

I prefer to have either a single O2 sensor sniffing all cylinders or have individual O2 sensors in each primary for the ultimate in precision.
I am a picky bastard that prefers to have more data than I need to do a job and tend to "over-kill" far too often.

Most of the modern digital ECUs allow individual injector adjustability. You can change the pulse width on individual injectors. I'm not sure how you would know when or which way to adjust this without individual O2 sensors OR individual EGT thermocouples to gather data from. So, if you're planning for a perfectly tuned car, you will need 4.


@VaccaRabite is right however...

For the average enthusiast much less precision is required.

Most likely, with the modern stuff you are using, a O2 sensor in a single primary before the nice SS muffler you have would work just fine.

I'd try it in two spots. In #3 primary pre-muffler and just past the muffler.
The primary location will give you really good data on a single cylinder and the post muffler will give good data on all cylinders EXCEPT for use at idle and over-run.
I would expect idle/over-run to be lean on the post muffler sensor.
I'd make sure the data from the primary location matched the data from the post muffler location except at idle and most likely live with a single sensor in one of the primaries.

I chose #3 as it is the cylinder that is most crippled by design in the engine and if I have to only live with one set of data, I want the data from the most troublesome cylinder.
And once again VR beat me to it. He's got his in the spot I'd most likely end up with.

That center "tube" that is shown in the non-exit end might also be a good spot.
It all depends on the internal structure of the muffler.
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913B   Best Location for AF Sensor Bung   Apr 22 2023, 12:39 AM
emerygt350   You are going to want it closer to the heat I thin...   Apr 22 2023, 05:35 AM
BeatNavy   I've been running Microsquirt for a couple of ...   Apr 22 2023, 05:35 AM
StarBear   This bung may be my next project - maybe this comi...   Apr 22 2023, 06:19 AM
76-914   Within 12" of the header. If installing on a ...   Apr 22 2023, 08:24 AM
StarBear   Within 12" of the header. If installing on a...   Apr 22 2023, 09:36 AM
technicalninja   WB O2 sensors are heated and can be placed anywher...   Apr 22 2023, 10:10 AM
Superhawk996   One work around might be to lengthen the tip. I d...   Apr 22 2023, 11:37 AM
technicalninja   Superhawk, your car would look great in leopard pr...   Apr 23 2023, 10:32 AM
Superhawk996   Still BIG and expensive! Child’s play. ...   Apr 23 2023, 10:44 AM
914werke   You'll be money ahead replacing that with an d...   Apr 23 2023, 02:28 PM
913B   Dang a Horiba $2999, new Bursch exahaust ...   Apr 23 2023, 04:14 PM
technicalninja   And remember that Horiba is USED! Parts for it...   Apr 23 2023, 04:52 PM
914werke   Dang a new Bursch exahaust $899!! t...   Apr 24 2023, 09:58 AM
pilothyer   Dang a new Bursch exahaust $899!! ...   Sep 12 2023, 04:28 AM
technicalninja   I'd put it in the final collector where the tw...   Sep 12 2023, 06:16 AM
burton73   I'd put it in the final collector where the t...   Sep 12 2023, 06:43 AM
technicalninja   That location is EXCELLENT! You are going to ...   Sep 12 2023, 06:57 AM
VaccaRabite   When I had the Triad exhaust on my car adding the ...   Sep 12 2023, 08:42 AM
JamesM   Best location with your current muffler would prob...   Sep 12 2023, 10:57 AM
913B   I got a new to me muffler. I believe it was origi...   Oct 13 2023, 07:41 PM
technicalninja   I would need to figure out where all primaries cam...   Oct 13 2023, 10:01 PM
mb911   I have absolutely ZERO to do with 914 rubber. That...   Oct 14 2023, 04:23 AM
913B   Reviving my old thread, any member have a clue wh...   Jun 14 2026, 09:52 PM


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