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| mturner7 |
Nov 12 2023, 07:29 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 8-May 22 From: Cupertino California Member No.: 26,532 Region Association: Northern California |
Hi Everyone,
My car is a 1974, 914-4 with a 2.0L (2056cc) engine. With Weber IDF 44's. My #4 cylinder is running really rich. All the others are fine. The Question is: What in the carburetor could most likely cause the plug to foul (Running very rich) like in my case? I've tried to adj the air/fuel mixture screw still no change. This is what I've done so far: 0) Did a compression check on all cylinders. All ok. (95-100psi) 1) Changed the plugs. 2) Changed the Cap and Rotor. 3) Changed the plug wires. 4) Verified all the jets are the same. 5) Set the Air flow on each carb, sync'd them 6) I cleaned all the jets with the carb in the car, ran and idled much better. 7) Verified Spark to that Cyl, got a hell of a shock out of it. 8) I'm running Elec-Ignition, Flamethrower Coil, 60,000volts. After doing all this, the #4 plug still fouls after only about 20 to 30 miles. It has to be the carburetor. I just pulled the carburetor. Thanks for the help. |
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| technicalninja |
Nov 14 2023, 12:01 AM
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If anything I would go with 28mm venturis, not 36's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Do they make 28mm vents for the 44 IDF? Smallest I've found is 32s for the 44IDFs Mturner7, the reason the mains were so large was the previous owner tried to add more fuel to a carb size up that was poorly matched to the engine it was on. The real problem was too little vacuum at the booster. You put the basic stock jets back in it and now you do not have enough fuel in the upper end. That carb should be on a 2.2l or bigger street motor. It would work on a 2.0l competition engine. I would expect a power band from 4-8K only. Below 4k it would be a dog... You need a higher vacuum signal. These are the only ways I know how to do that. Increase engine size or RPM range (increase airflow). Decrease butterfly and venturi size. I think you're already on the smallest vents available for your 44s. Some carburetors have special auxiliary venturis that are "dog legged" deeper in the main venturi. Some have annular boosters. Makes TBI style spray from the boosters. Don't think either of those are available for the IDF series. Bottom line, carbs are too big for a street based 2 liter... The funkiness with cylinder #4 may be something different but having badly matched carb to engine size would make diagnosis far more difficult to do. The change back to the proper size mains is probably running the engine way lean (your loss of power) and may be running it way too hot. A WB02 sensor and a good CHT gauge should be part of any serious tuning IMO. Extended use above 400 degrees will hurt the metallurgy of the air-cooled heads. It looks damn easy to hit this number with a slightly improper tune. I would guess yours is WAY off... |
mturner7 Porsche 914-4 Weber Carb running rich Nov 12 2023, 07:29 PM
Superhawk996 Those carbs have been modified
1st thing I would... Nov 12 2023, 10:34 PM
mturner7
Those carbs have been modified
1st thing I woul... Nov 13 2023, 03:45 PM
Tbrown4x4 Also look at how the throttle plate uncovers the p... Nov 13 2023, 09:26 AM
Superhawk996
Also look at how the throttle plate uncovers the ... Nov 14 2023, 11:20 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com all good advice, additionally 44s are too large fo... Nov 13 2023, 09:56 AM
930cabman
all good advice, additionally 44s are too large f... Nov 13 2023, 12:49 PM
infraredcalvin Not much to add to the above, but have you moved i... Nov 13 2023, 02:59 PM
mturner7
Not much to add to the above, but have you moved ... Nov 13 2023, 06:12 PM
930cabman If anything I would go with 28mm venturis, not 36... Nov 13 2023, 07:21 PM
SirAndy
If anything I would go with 28mm venturis, not 36... Nov 14 2023, 08:57 PM
Dave_Darling Have you checked the valve adjustment? Double-che... Nov 13 2023, 11:23 PM
rhodyguy The one air bypass screw looks to be way way open. Nov 14 2023, 09:48 AM
rfinegan After basics are set up for valve lash, timing, fl... Nov 14 2023, 07:59 PM
Spoke Hijack (again):
On my 2056, I have some popping w... Nov 14 2023, 09:59 PM
Superhawk996
I'm going to pull the carb and inspect. What... Nov 15 2023, 08:13 AM
Spoke
I'm going to pull the carb and inspect. Wha... Nov 15 2023, 08:49 PM
technicalninja The 115 mains are the only thing that jumps out at... Nov 14 2023, 11:06 PM
technicalninja https://www.piercemanifolds.com/CHOKE_p/71507.htm
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Superhawk996 @spoke
Yes that location is where the idle jet ... Nov 15 2023, 11:38 PM
Spoke @Superhawk996
Thanks. I tried to take out the id... Nov 27 2023, 08:19 PM
930cabman
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Nov 28 2023, 11:19 AM
Al Meredith I have to blow out the idle jets all the time . Se... Nov 28 2023, 10:26 AM![]() ![]() |
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