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> Staggered setups on 914s, what have you found?
emerygt350
post Jan 3 2024, 07:18 PM
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Going to need new tires next spring and was thinking about this. I have 16x7 fuchs up front and 16x8s in the back, I think, or are the 8 and 9? I don't know, I just put 225s all around when I bought it. Anyway, since the wheels are staggered I get no benefit from 'rotating' the square setup.

On the track, pre2056, I destroyed my rears yet the fronts look great. The car handles great (as far as I can tell without a comparison to other setups), steering is of course a little heavier due to the 225s but not annoying at all.

Knowing that the 914 has a (1 inch?) difference in width at front vs back....

And mine is also 14 inches wider than stock but maintains the width difference front and back.

Is their anything to be gained going down to a 205 or something up front beyond lighter steering? I would assume understeer would follow. Can't go any wider in back. The difference in wear made me wonder whether I needed 225 up front. There were two of us in the car on the track and I am a pretty big guy.
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post Jan 5 2024, 08:23 AM
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I know Chris and bill have a lot more horsepower than me

But since 2003 I have always had even tire wear on both front and back axles.

Car has extremely low tire wear
And equal front/back
I heat cycle out all tires rather than wear out
Have practice sets of A7 with 35-40 heat cycles and no cords

True for A7, bias ply TDR’s. speedsters R7’s , Toyo , etc
225/50 square on 7’s (class rules) with one inch spacers on the rear

I do go through rear brake pads twice as fast as fronts. But not tires


At around 200 hp I’m underpowered to most of you
Perhaps my light weight helps a little. But still a Porsche 6 hanging out back


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emerygt350   Staggered setups on 914s, what have you found?   Jan 3 2024, 07:18 PM
Superhawk996   You nailed it. Stagger will increase understeer a...   Jan 3 2024, 07:21 PM
BillJ   When you say rears are destroyed what do you mean?...   Jan 3 2024, 07:45 PM
VegasRacer   The rears will be used up twice as fast as the fro...   Jan 3 2024, 07:55 PM
rick 918-S   The rears will be used up twice as fast as the fr...   Jan 4 2024, 06:40 AM
infraredcalvin   I kept my narrow body 2.1L on 15x7 square setup on...   Jan 3 2024, 10:29 PM
emerygt350   By destroyed I mean melted all the tread down to n...   Jan 4 2024, 05:58 AM
BillJ   By destroyed I mean melted all the tread down to ...   Jan 4 2024, 09:16 AM
infraredcalvin   By destroyed I mean melted all the tread down to ...   Jan 4 2024, 10:15 AM
campbellcj   ^ Same; 8's and 9's for track but currentl...   Jan 4 2024, 09:46 AM
JmuRiz   Not to thread-jack the post, but: Random crazy th...   Jan 4 2024, 09:58 AM
BillJ   Dude you ARE crazy!!! Hehe Still a re...   Jan 4 2024, 10:06 AM
BillJ   Oh and yes at turn in (assuming decel or braking) ...   Jan 4 2024, 10:10 AM
emerygt350   Sounds like keeping it square is probably best. I...   Jan 4 2024, 01:42 PM
Superhawk996   . . . I hate to waste the two good tires up front...   Jan 4 2024, 06:34 PM
BillJ   That makes total sense!   Jan 4 2024, 02:40 PM
emerygt350   I don't remember much understeer so maybe that...   Jan 5 2024, 07:31 AM
brant   I know Chris and bill have a lot more horsepower t...   Jan 5 2024, 08:23 AM
emerygt350   I would love to get some real tires under it, that...   Jan 5 2024, 09:04 AM
Justinp71   I had problems with snap oversteer with 205s all t...   Jan 5 2024, 08:10 PM
stownsen914   A 914 will be happier on track with more tire on t...   Jan 5 2024, 08:32 PM
mlindner   Agree, would not run stagger for a auto-cross unle...   Jan 7 2024, 10:19 AM


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