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Let's talk windscreen/windshield |
Montreal914 |
Jan 15 2024, 11:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,592 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California |
I am currently looking into getting a windscreen (as the UK or parts catalogs calls it) but I am only interested in one that would have the original shape (rounded top).
I saw a few restored 914-6 on display at Rennsport VII with the OE windscreen shape and they were Pilkington, not Sigla. I wasn't able to confirm if Pilkington is the new supplier of Porsche 914 windscreen replacement part, but I have a strong feeling it is. These OEM windscreens are available in clear or tinted per these two part numbers. Clear: 914-541-101-10 Tinted: 914-541-102-10 By tinted, I am not sure if they mean with a dark shaded band at the top or overall tint like the side glass (Delodur-1 and Delodur-F, -1 clear and -F tinted). If someone has this information, please comment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) My car has the Delodur-F (tinted) side windows and I would like to get the correct windscreen for it. That being said, I am not interested in having any dark shaded green band at the top, I would prefer clear, hence the question above. For those who aren't familiar with what I am referring to as the shape, I found these two pictures trying to show it. The orange car (Porsche's 914-8) obviously has the genuine windscreen while the red car has a generic replacement. You can see how the top part of the windscreen is "bubbled up" creating a nice flowing live vs a sharp transition. |
Montreal914 |
Jan 15 2024, 05:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,592 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California |
Well, the two numbers seems to be available, both 101 and 102.
Here are the screenshots of both numbers from the same Porsche dealer, yet the price is different. I doubt these are the same part with different price. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Surely, there must be a difference. From the Porsche parts document, the 101 is clear and the 102 is tinted. But you clearly know more than I do! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) If you think the cheaper one from Porsche will be a good matching shade with my side Delodur-F, I definitely prefer the lower priced one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) BTW, that price was $508 and went up to $570 January 1st. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
wonkipop |
Jan 15 2024, 05:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,405 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Well, the two numbers seems to be available, both 101 and 102. Here are the screenshots of both numbers from the same Porsche dealer, yet the price is different. I doubt these are the same part with different price. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Surely, there must be a difference. From the Porsche parts document, the 101 is clear and the 102 is tinted. But you clearly know more than I do! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) If you think the cheaper one from Porsche will be a good matching shade with my side Delodur-F, I definitely prefer the lower priced one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) BTW, that price was $508 and went up to $570 January 1st. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) its all a mystery mate. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) not sure what porsche is offering. but whatever the case, you are after the tinted one given your side glass and you will find the clear one very clear if it is in fact a match for the original factory ones. i can tell from those original two photos you put up of pilkington screens on two cars that they are marked as what is commonly available on modern cars as a clear screen. the two vertical marks (sometimes sloping or italicised) that are next to the circle with the E. what indicates a standard clear screen in the modern world. the original screens had very different coding on them that indicated clear or tinted. in the thread i linked were those markings for both sigla and kinonglass. as to what porsche or sierra mardre are offering i don't really know. i think how they would indicate its a clearer glass than 70% must be by some other coding than what is shown in those two pilkington screens you posted. none of the rest of the coding in those screens indicates tinting to the best of my knowledge. its entirely possible they are reproducing somehow those original much clearer screens. but i am not sure really how that would be marked or indicated on the screens. PS its all a pretty esoteric area. for instance back in the day if you got a sigla tinted screen what that meant was the glass was in fact a very beautiful noticeably greener glass - thats what distinguished them. a lot of 911 guys go after those screens for that reason. and if you got the kinonglass tinted screen that was more about it being a darker grey color. it could be that porsche classic are offering that distinguishing feature these days with their genuine spare part screens. it could be a flow on from their supply of 911 screens. its really hard to know exactly what they are up to unless you can open a box and compare the two screens. all i know from down here is that the early 911 guys covet those tinted sigla screens for the colouring and maybe that is what porsche classic have gone after being able to offer. |
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