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morehills
post Feb 29 2024, 06:30 AM
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I'm doing a fairly large project on the interior of my 1971 914-6 GT clone this winter. I'm converting to 911 steering and ignition, adding a GT roll bar and harness mounts and a few other bits and bobs.

While it's open, should I cut an access panel? Is there any impact on the structural integrity of the firewall? How difficult is it to lean over the engine and adjust timing without the access panel? While it would be more convenient, I wonder if it's really needed to properly time the car every few years. It's a '71 2.2 liter "E" cam engine.

Thanks for any advice. John





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post Feb 29 2024, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(morehills @ Feb 29 2024, 04:30 AM) *
Is there any impact on the structural integrity of the firewall?

The clue is in the name ...
Firewall

Cutting a big hole in a wall that is supposed to protect you from an engine fire (to give you a few extra seconds to get out of there) is really only a good idea if you are prepared to deal with it in an emergency.
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 29 2024, 10:28 AM) *

QUOTE(morehills @ Feb 29 2024, 04:30 AM) *
Is there any impact on the structural integrity of the firewall?

The clue is in the name ...
Firewall

Cutting a big hole in a wall that is supposed to protect you from an engine fire (to give you a few extra seconds to get out of there) is really only a good idea if you are prepared to deal with it in an emergency.
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I will forever remember the fire behind me on the freeway. There is no way in hell I am cutting a hole in something called a "FIREWALL"

On our six, I drop the motor yearly for valve adjustments. Yea, you can do it in the car, but it is much easier when it is out. And that gives you the chance to change the fan belt, check the CV joint bolts, and inspect the shift linkage bushings.

You have to drain the oil to adjust the valves, and you have to separate one oil line to drain it. So what is the big deal with just disconnecting the rest of the stuff and dropping the motor?

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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Mar 1 2024, 08:39 AM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 29 2024, 10:28 AM) *

QUOTE(morehills @ Feb 29 2024, 04:30 AM) *
Is there any impact on the structural integrity of the firewall?

The clue is in the name ...
Firewall

Cutting a big hole in a wall that is supposed to protect you from an engine fire (to give you a few extra seconds to get out of there) is really only a good idea if you are prepared to deal with it in an emergency.
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I will forever remember the fire behind me on the freeway. There is no way in hell I am cutting a hole in something called a "FIREWALL"

On our six, I drop the motor yearly for valve adjustments. Yea, you can do it in the car, but it is much easier when it is out. And that gives you the chance to change the fan belt, check the CV joint bolts, and inspect the shift linkage bushings.

You have to drain the oil to adjust the valves, and you have to separate one oil line to drain it. So what is the big deal with just disconnecting the rest of the stuff and dropping the motor?


"You have to drain the oil to adjust the valves, and you have to separate one oil line to drain it. "

Not that I disagree that dropping the whole -6 motor/trans makes some things a lot easier to do, but the times I have done valve adjustments with the engine in, I have never had to drain the oil. Am I missing something?
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morehills   914-6 Hole in Firewall   Feb 29 2024, 06:30 AM
Cairo94507   If you have a factory 914-6, I would not cut the f...   Feb 29 2024, 06:43 AM
gereed75   There are lots of threads and lots of opinions on ...   Feb 29 2024, 06:59 AM
Superhawk996   There are lots of threads and lots of opinions on...   Feb 29 2024, 07:06 AM
brant   Drop the motor for valve adjustment Geez. I do ...   Feb 29 2024, 07:24 AM
Superhawk996   I haven’t read that thread in a while. Here’...   Feb 29 2024, 08:29 AM
Steve   I've had my 914-6 conversion since 1986 and on...   Feb 29 2024, 09:06 AM
worn   I've had my 914-6 conversion since 1986 and o...   Feb 29 2024, 08:58 PM
Steve   I bought the PMS fiberglass cover, versus finding ...   Feb 29 2024, 09:08 AM
morehills   I bought the PMS fiberglass cover, versus finding...   Feb 29 2024, 09:25 AM
gereed75   Do my valves routinely in car also. I guess I was ...   Feb 29 2024, 09:51 AM
SirAndy   Is there any impact on the structural integrity of...   Feb 29 2024, 10:28 AM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='morehills' post='3131423' date='Feb ...   Mar 1 2024, 08:39 AM
Superhawk996   So what is the big deal with just disconnecting t...   Mar 1 2024, 09:03 AM
ClayPerrine   So what is the big deal with just disconnecting ...   Mar 1 2024, 05:34 PM
fixer34   [quote name='morehills' post='3131423' date='Feb...   Mar 3 2024, 09:21 PM
rgalla9146   IF you choose to put the access hole in, there is...   Feb 29 2024, 10:47 AM
930cabman   I cut mine for the /6 conversion. It's a simpl...   Feb 29 2024, 10:57 AM
Superhawk996   Ya all must be changing fan belts like underwear t...   Feb 29 2024, 11:17 AM
mlindner   I put one in my GT Tribute, helps a lot with servi...   Feb 29 2024, 11:40 AM
brant   Ours   Feb 29 2024, 12:10 PM
930cabman   Ours Looks very clean to me, I can't see ho...   Feb 29 2024, 04:21 PM
burton73   Ours Looks very clean to me, I can't see h...   Feb 29 2024, 07:13 PM
Beach914   I'm planning to do it on my GT conversion but ...   Feb 29 2024, 12:25 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   NO WAY!!!!!! I'm doi...   Feb 29 2024, 12:28 PM
burton73   @morehills I have what you want. I was going to ...   Feb 29 2024, 03:07 PM
Mitox   I cut mine, and found a firewall section to make t...   Feb 29 2024, 04:56 PM
Dion   My version. Had a section from a donor car. Added ...   Mar 1 2024, 06:22 AM
mepstein   Yes it’s called a firewall. Yes a plate that’s...   Mar 1 2024, 08:53 AM
mb911   I have always been tempted but have stayed away fr...   Mar 3 2024, 07:03 AM
mlindner   I don't get it. If you have a engine fire isn...   Mar 3 2024, 04:22 PM
ClayPerrine   I don't get it. If you have a engine fire isn...   Mar 3 2024, 08:32 PM
930cabman   Several years ago I was in the market for a 355, m...   Mar 3 2024, 05:12 PM
davehg   I’m with Team Firewall Access bay!!...   Mar 3 2024, 06:17 PM
mlindner   Wow, nice Dave.   Mar 3 2024, 06:21 PM
windforfun   Doesn't the firewall consist of two layers wit...   Mar 3 2024, 09:08 PM
sixaddict   Track car…..all the stuff about what can be done...   Mar 3 2024, 09:27 PM


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