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> OT: Truck Won't Start in the Morning, "Cold" Start Issues
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post Apr 3 2024, 10:58 AM
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Way off topic I know, but this forum is also WAY better than others that would maybe be more appropriate for this.

I've got an Isuzu Hombre '98 4 cylinder pickup. It does have a bit over 200k on the odometer, but it runs good. This last winter it started acting up not wanting to start in the morning. I'm in CA so morning temps can range from 30°f upwards just depending on weather.
It has gotten steadily worse where to now it won't even start when it's 50° outside.

I have tentatively narrowed it down to lack of spark, it will crank and crank and crank but not fire. A timing light on a spark plug wire while cranking will not flash.

I started with new coils figuring those might be going bad and not wanting to fire when it's cold out. No dice.

I am also getting codes for cam and crank sensors (as well as codes EGR valve and low efficiency on CAT, though I believe those are unrelated to the no start, and I believe the one caused the other so I cleaned out the EGR and made sure it was moving freely and seated okay, and have some BG 44k in the tank to help clean things out)
Anyways replaced the cam and crank sensors with NTK brand and it started two mornings in a row, and now won't start in the morning again.... Temps were all about the same all four mornings.

It will start just fine later in the day though.

Of course with all of this registration renewal is coming up and it's a SMOG year (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

Any troubleshooting tips would be appreciated since it feels like I'm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif)
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post Apr 3 2024, 12:55 PM
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NTK is a brand I trust (I don't trust much now-a-days).

A common diagnostic process is to clear codes, run, pull codes.

If you're still getting crank/cam sensor codes look to wiring first.

You're working on a 26 year old car...

I've stopped taking anything over 20 as the only parts available are Chinese and I cannot warranty those.

You're also working on a niche vehicle. Isuzu anything is hard to get good parts for.
26-year-old Isuzu will be even worse.

You're also in Calif which has the strictest emissions laws so you may have to get a CARB certified cat. On Rock Auto CARB cats are 600+ and the one I'd pick say's "last one". You're going to see that or NLA often.

I'd bet money that if you found a factory service manual it too would be stupid expensive.


If I was constantly getting crank/cam sensor codes I would try to fix it first.
At the point I needed an ECU I'd slit it's throat...

Just checked RA. They have a Cardone ecu for 100!
It says it needs programming...
Find someone who can do that BEFORE ordering.
I'd be worried that the necessary program will be NLA.
You're going to need Calif specific coding.

I'd advise my customer that the truck will only get harder to find parts for.
You're going to start losing "black boxes" for the reasons that SuperHawk described.
Any vehicle can be repaired but you should look at the 3-5 year cost and that if it was a human it would be the equivalent to a 98 year old person...

How much work would you do to a 98 year old human?
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