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914incali
post Apr 2 2024, 11:07 AM
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Picked up a 76 out of texas that had been converted to single carb that just doesn't run very well. I decided to convert back to original FI, essentially everything is gone and I am working on understanding the system. I guess my first question is where does the fuel pump draw power from? there is a single black wire underneath the fuel tank that has no power to it but all the relays have been removed and Im waiting on those from pelican
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Karl R
post Apr 3 2024, 07:04 PM
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Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 1976 car should have a L jet instead of that D jet. Personally I prefer the L jet anyhow since it is quite a bit more mechanically robust in terms of all the connectors and wiring. I think the manifolds will have holes for three studs buy your heads will have four.
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post Apr 3 2024, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(Karl R @ Apr 3 2024, 06:04 PM) *

Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 1976 car should have a L jet instead of that D jet. Personally I prefer the L jet anyhow since it is quite a bit more mechanically robust in terms of all the connectors and wiring. I think the manifolds will have holes for three studs buy your heads will have four.


Um, no. 1976 914 2.0L GC code engines are DJet, 3 stud heads. The 912E is LJet maybe that’s what you are thinking about.
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post Apr 4 2024, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Apr 3 2024, 07:23 PM) *

QUOTE(Karl R @ Apr 3 2024, 06:04 PM) *

Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 1976 car should have a L jet instead of that D jet. Personally I prefer the L jet anyhow since it is quite a bit more mechanically robust in terms of all the connectors and wiring. I think the manifolds will have holes for three studs buy your heads will have four.


Um, no. 1976 914 2.0L GC code engines are DJet, 3 stud heads. The 912E is LJet maybe that’s what you are thinking about.


yeah jeffs right.
no 76 l jet 1.8s.

but the 76 D jet california 2.0 is in fact identical to the 75 D jet californian.
its not a different set up.
we did discover in all the californian air resources board certification material that the 76 models though classified as 76 MY were allowed to conform with 75 MY standards under the provision that all cars were manufactured before jan 01 1976 calendar year.
ie they were 1975 manfucture.

this is in fact why the 76s are only a half year car.
and similarly the 912E is also a half year car in terms of MY.
the 912s conform to 76 MY CARB regs and in order to do that those engines ran the L jet not the 914s. the 912E is the second half of 1976 MY car.
all were an interim provision until the 924 could arrive in the USA.

it doesn't really help a 76 model year 914 owner with passing smog.
as noted, its got to be all intact on the car.
but in terms of obtaining the emissions equipment the 76 is exactly shared with the 75 but it does have to be the california engine not the 75 49 states engine.

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apparently (as reported by one member here) many years ago a deal was made with some 76 owners to be released with conforming to that 75 cut off year due to the technicality of the original CARB certification that accepted that 76 914s were for the purposes of certification 75. but since that time the authorities have cracked down and no longer allow that special case.

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you need the works for 76 california smog.
cat.
EGR.
smog pump.
even the exhaust system (semi exhaust reactor heat exchangers).
the whole muffler set up which has the cat along with the EGR bleed tube.
its a fair bit of stuff.
and don't forget the emission sticker.
someone posted here they want to see the emission sticker in the engine bay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

better off with a 75.
same car. exactly same car.
no smog obligations.

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914incali   1976 fuel injection questions   Apr 2 2024, 11:07 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   power is from the relay board in the engine compar...   Apr 2 2024, 11:18 AM
914incali   I have a complete injection system and am waiting ...   Apr 2 2024, 11:34 AM
rjames   Black and red= power, brown=ground to chassis.   Apr 2 2024, 11:54 AM
914incali   Black and red= power, brown=ground to chassis. ...   Apr 2 2024, 12:12 PM
JeffBowlsby   Single brown ground cable for the fuel pump is se...   Apr 2 2024, 01:15 PM
914incali   yes its out of a 73 2.0, im not to worried about s...   Apr 2 2024, 01:31 PM
fiacra   yes its out of a 73 2.0, im not to worried about ...   Apr 2 2024, 10:02 PM
L-Jet914   yes its out of a 73 2.0, im not to worried about ...   Oct 10 2024, 11:33 PM
burton73   The problem is you are in California, and you need...   Apr 2 2024, 01:39 PM
Karl R   Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 1976...   Apr 3 2024, 07:04 PM
JeffBowlsby   Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 197...   Apr 3 2024, 07:23 PM
wonkipop   Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 19...   Apr 4 2024, 06:10 PM
Ron914   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3137731' date='Ap...   Oct 9 2024, 12:42 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3137731' date='A...   Oct 9 2024, 04:15 PM
L-Jet914   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3137731' date='A...   Oct 10 2024, 11:17 PM
r_towle   76 is djet. I happen to have one here if you need...   Apr 3 2024, 08:23 PM
Karl R   I guess I'm starting to slip. I thought they s...   Apr 4 2024, 04:39 PM
r_towle   I guess I'm starting to slip. I thought they ...   Apr 4 2024, 05:31 PM
JeffBowlsby   For smog purposes CA-only model 1975-76 914s also ...   Oct 9 2024, 05:15 PM
wonkipop   @Ron914 here is what CARB would have on file for...   Oct 9 2024, 08:06 PM
Ron914   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Oct 10 2024, 04:58 PM
wonkipop   well i can only speak as an australian down here...   Oct 10 2024, 06:57 PM
fiacra   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3172034' date='Oct 9...   Oct 10 2024, 11:14 PM
Ron914   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3172034' date='Oct ...   Oct 10 2024, 11:47 PM
L-Jet914   [quote name='fiacra' post='3172200' date='Oct 11 ...   Oct 10 2024, 11:57 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='fiacra' post='3172200' date='Oct 11 ...   Oct 11 2024, 12:41 AM
JeffBowlsby   Did paperwork from the previous smog tests come wi...   Oct 10 2024, 05:28 PM
wonkipop   on the question of how the previous owner got the ...   Oct 10 2024, 07:07 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby you always throw up interesting inf...   Oct 10 2024, 07:22 PM
JeffBowlsby   Yes! It’s in the Service &Training manu...   Oct 10 2024, 07:48 PM
JeffBowlsby   I have at least one 75 CA 2.0L with the SL box on ...   Oct 10 2024, 07:58 PM
wonkipop   I have at least one 75 CA 2.0L with the SL box on...   Oct 10 2024, 09:44 PM
JeffBowlsby   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3172179' date='Oc...   Oct 10 2024, 10:15 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3172179' date='O...   Oct 11 2024, 12:38 AM
Ron914   When I bought the car I had to go to the DMV and p...   Oct 10 2024, 10:47 PM
L-Jet914   If you have a plate number you can see the pass/fa...   Oct 10 2024, 11:03 PM
L-Jet914   Everything required for a California certified 197...   Oct 10 2024, 11:28 PM
wonkipop   Everything required for a California certified 19...   Oct 11 2024, 12:39 AM
930cabman   Glad I don't live in Cali   Oct 11 2024, 05:04 AM
fiacra   Glad I don't live in Cali It ain't bad ...   Oct 11 2024, 03:29 PM
emerygt350   Absolutely agree. Drives me crazy living in NY tr...   Oct 11 2024, 06:35 PM
davep   So Ron, what is the current situation?   Jan 5 2025, 03:30 PM
fiacra   @914incali [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Jan 5 2025, 03:57 PM
Ron914   Thanks for checking in . I am still working on my ...   Jan 6 2025, 12:28 PM
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rjames   Post a photo of that oblong hole so we clearly un...   Jan 6 2025, 02:02 PM
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burton73   I would really like to post a photo or video but ...   Jan 6 2025, 06:19 PM
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emerygt350   You are all good with that butterfly. That is how...   Jan 6 2025, 06:08 PM
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technicalninja   Thanks Bob!   Jan 7 2025, 09:20 AM
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emerygt350   The butterfly should have two screws that hold ...   Jan 7 2025, 12:47 PM
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emerygt350   Great news. What a nice looking car! Just ou...   Jan 11 2025, 07:18 PM
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fiacra   Good luck on Monday. Fingers crossed. If it does...   Jan 11 2025, 07:41 PM
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Ron914   Is your vacuum retard can on the distributor hook...   Jan 12 2025, 09:23 AM
Ron914   Lets try the photo again   Jan 12 2025, 09:39 AM
JeffBowlsby   Hose 10 is not connected to anything on a 1974-76 ...   Jan 12 2025, 09:53 AM
Ron914   Hose 10 is not connected to anything on a 1974-76...   Jan 12 2025, 10:22 AM
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Ron914   should the #10 hose be plugged or left open to air...   Jan 12 2025, 10:24 AM
Ron914   should the #10 hose be plugged or left open to ai...   Jan 12 2025, 10:32 AM
rjames   [quote name='Ron914' post='3186354' date='Jan 12 ...   Jan 12 2025, 12:54 PM
Ron914   When I first assembled my motor I followed this di...   Jan 12 2025, 10:40 AM
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emerygt350   We should walk you through all the vacuum hoses. ...   Jan 12 2025, 02:02 PM
emerygt350   We should walk you through all the vacuum hoses. ...   Jan 12 2025, 02:05 PM
Ron914   We should walk you through all the vacuum hoses....   Jan 12 2025, 02:58 PM
rjames   ‘75/76 2.0 cars did not have the PCV valve.   Jan 12 2025, 02:37 PM
emerygt350   ‘75/76 2.0 cars did not have the PCV valve. ...   Jan 12 2025, 03:50 PM
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