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| 930cabman |
May 8 2024, 05:23 PM
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My /6 conversion is going on 3 years as it seems as many do. I had a local old school reputable shop build the stock 2.7, case was done at Ollies, .... should be a great engine. Finally trying to get her barking, but just won't take hold. While cranking she wants to start, but when I release the starter, she conks out. We have a spark (not real significant), timing is close, carbs appear ok.
Is it possible the valves or maybe rings are not sealing because the engine sat for about 2 years? |
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| 930cabman |
May 26 2024, 07:27 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,317 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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Checking ohms across the + battery cable (when disconnected) and the negative cable should be 0 ohms. Correct or incorrect?
This is confirmed with my well running 2056, 0 ohms Moving to my /6 conversion, not so. Checking across the + battery cable (when disconnected) and the negative battery I am getting 170 ohms Checking across one pair of red cables ( normally connected to the + battery cable) and the negative cable I am getting a reading of approx 400 ohms, but quickly goes to much higher reading. Checking across the MSD heavy red cable and the battery negative cable I am reading 12K ohms Currently putting a full charge in the battery, will try for actual voltage when cranking. I suspect there is a short or more somewhere. |
| Superhawk996 |
May 26 2024, 07:48 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,499 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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Checking ohms across the + battery cable (when disconnected) and the negative cable should be 0 ohms. Correct or incorrect? This is confirmed with my well running 2056, 0 ohms Moving to my /6 conversion, not so. Checking across the + battery cable (when disconnected) and the negative battery I am getting 170 ohms Checking across one pair of red cables ( normally connected to the + battery cable) and the negative cable I am getting a reading of approx 400 ohms, but quickly goes to much higher reading. Checking across the MSD heavy red cable and the battery negative cable I am reading 12K ohms Currently putting a full charge in the battery, will try for actual voltage when cranking. I suspect there is a short or more somewhere. Not sure how to respond since it’s not clear to me what you’re measuring and under what conditions. Short answer; with ignition off and both the battery + and battery negative (-) disconnected from the battery, you should see an open circuit (infinite) ohms assuming you have no parasitic loads like radio memory, the 914 center console clock, etc. Not sure how you could possibly be measuring zero ohms on the /4. Zero ohms would represent a short circuit and then when you connect the battery, the cables would get hot, melt insulation, and glow red hot. So you are not using the meter properly, or I’m not understanding what you’re doing. |
930cabman Fresh 2.7 May 8 2024, 05:23 PM
Superhawk996 Fuel
Compression
Spark
Something is missing or... May 8 2024, 05:29 PM
930cabman
Fuel
Compression
Spark
Something is missing o... May 9 2024, 06:01 AM
technicalninja Run a compression test. If low add 1/2 oz of ATF/W... May 8 2024, 05:36 PM
mepstein Don’t panic, it’s usually something simple.
... May 8 2024, 05:46 PM
nditiz1 Can you confirm fuel is getting down the throats w... May 8 2024, 06:49 PM
930cabman
Can you confirm fuel is getting down the throats ... May 9 2024, 05:47 AM
Luke M
[quote name='nditiz1' post='3144117' date='May 8 ... May 9 2024, 05:54 AM
930cabman
[quote name='930cabman' post='3144161' date='May ... May 9 2024, 06:05 AM
flyer86d I had the same issue with the 2.7 that I put toget... May 9 2024, 05:05 AM
930cabman
I had the same issue with the 2.7 that I put toge... May 9 2024, 05:56 AM
flyer86d
I had the same issue with the 2.7 that I put tog... May 9 2024, 02:52 PM
930cabman
[quote name='930cabman' post='3144165' date='May ... May 9 2024, 03:40 PM
mb911 Ok so I will echo wrong cam timing. A friend bough... May 9 2024, 06:04 AM
Retroracer @930cabman - hope recovery from the health issues... May 9 2024, 08:26 AM
930cabman
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... May 9 2024, 09:37 AM
gereed75 Incorrect fuel level in carbs can result in a no g... May 9 2024, 08:31 AM
930cabman
Incorrect fuel level in carbs can result in a no ... May 9 2024, 09:40 AM
Root_Werks Would certainly do a simple compression test, just... May 9 2024, 10:00 AM
Superhawk996
Would really hope the cams are not 180 out. :(
... May 9 2024, 01:06 PM
930cabman
Would certainly do a simple compression test, jus... May 9 2024, 01:14 PM
mb911
Would certainly do a simple compression test, ju... May 9 2024, 01:17 PM
Root_Werks
Would certainly do a simple compression test, ju... May 9 2024, 03:44 PM
flyer86d
[quote name='930cabman' post='3144246' date='May ... May 10 2024, 05:42 AM
technicalninja Running the compression test WILL verify cam timin... May 9 2024, 01:45 PM
930cabman
Running the compression test WILL verify cam timi... May 9 2024, 03:37 PM
gereed75 I had the exact same symptoms.
Changed the igniti... May 10 2024, 08:20 AM
930cabman
I had the exact same symptoms.
Changed the ignit... May 10 2024, 08:59 AM
930cabman Checked power at the coil + terminal, solid 12volt... May 23 2024, 12:28 PM
Root_Werks
Checked power at the coil + terminal, solid 12vol... May 23 2024, 12:41 PM
930cabman I have noticed a rather large (more than I am used... May 23 2024, 03:36 PM
Geezer914 Any possibility of a vacuum leak? May 23 2024, 03:44 PM
930cabman
Any possibility of a vacuum leak?
Thanks, but i... May 25 2024, 01:26 PM
Superhawk996
Any possibility of a vacuum leak?
Thanks, but ... May 25 2024, 01:51 PM
930cabman
[quote name='930cabman' post='3147314' date='May ... May 25 2024, 04:38 PM
IronHillRestorations I’m going to guess the distributor timing is inc... May 25 2024, 06:45 PM
thomasotten Distributor firing order. May 25 2024, 07:10 PM
930cabman
Checking ohms across the + battery cable (when d... May 26 2024, 08:09 AM
mlindner I moved the battery to the trunk. Then fabricated ... May 26 2024, 08:27 AM
930cabman
I moved the battery to the trunk. Then fabricated... May 26 2024, 10:17 AM
Superhawk996 Got it.
Agree the 170 ohms on the /6 is not ide... May 26 2024, 10:20 AM
930cabman
Got it.
Agree the 170 ohms on the /6 is not id... May 26 2024, 04:44 PM
mb911
Got it.
Agree the 170 ohms on the /6 is not i... May 26 2024, 05:05 PM
windforfun "Ohms law: 12v / 170 ohms = .071 amps of para... May 26 2024, 05:47 PM
Superhawk996
Hmmm... 71 mA is enough to kill you. IMHO, thi... May 26 2024, 08:43 PM
930cabman I sense the compression is good based on the sound... May 26 2024, 06:02 PM
mb911
I sense the compression is good based on the soun... May 26 2024, 07:36 PM
Superhawk996
I sense the compression is good based on the sou... May 26 2024, 08:23 PM
technicalninja windforfun, thought you are an EE Sir!
It... May 26 2024, 06:04 PM
930cabman
windforfun, thought you are an EE Sir!
It... May 26 2024, 06:21 PM
windforfun
windforfun, thought you are an EE Sir!
It... May 26 2024, 07:19 PM
technicalninja I'll put the draw issue to bed with this...
A... May 26 2024, 07:15 PM
Superhawk996
The draw is a "red herring" in the tro... May 26 2024, 08:49 PM
technicalninja Just remembered a stock 914 parasitic draw...
Only... May 26 2024, 09:14 PM
Superhawk996
Just remembered a stock 914 parasitic draw...
Onl... May 26 2024, 09:21 PM
930cabman ON TO SOMETHING
as you can imagine, this driving ... May 27 2024, 06:02 AM
930cabman She lives :Qarl:
Spark timing was retarded by ... May 29 2024, 02:54 PM
mate914
She lives :Qarl:
Spark timing was retarded by... May 29 2024, 07:27 PM
930cabman
She lives :Qarl:
Spark timing was retarded b... May 30 2024, 04:55 AM
930cabman
She lives :Qarl:
Spark timing was retarded b... Jul 7 2024, 08:37 AM
mate914
[quote name='mate914' post='3148162' date='May 29... Jul 7 2024, 09:00 AM
Root_Werks Very glad this had a happy ending! Or rather ... May 30 2024, 09:29 AM
930cabman Thank you to all contributors, she is running dece... May 30 2024, 03:14 PM
flyer86d As I found out on my 2.7, set up the Webers on ini... May 30 2024, 03:32 PM
930cabman
As I found out on my 2.7, set up the Webers on in... May 31 2024, 08:08 AM
IronHillRestorations @930cabman check your oil lines. Sounds like you ... Jul 7 2024, 09:08 AM
930cabman
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 7 2024, 11:58 AM
mate914
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?... Jul 7 2024, 12:22 PM
sixnotfour the bypass for the oil filter is in the console ,,... Jul 7 2024, 09:13 AM
sixnotfour top right, Jul 7 2024, 09:23 AM
mb911 What console do you have? I have seen reports on t... Jul 7 2024, 09:46 AM
930cabman
What console do you have? I have seen reports on ... Jul 7 2024, 11:57 AM
930cabman What appears to be some sort of pressure valve ins... Jul 7 2024, 02:35 PM
mb911
What appears to be some sort of pressure valve in... Jul 7 2024, 02:47 PM
930cabman Been wrenching for 50+ years, never seen an oil fi... Jul 7 2024, 03:20 PM
sixnotfour is this an oc 54..not the early filter. Jul 7 2024, 03:51 PM
930cabman
is this an oc 54..not the early filter.
If memo... Jul 7 2024, 03:56 PM
sixnotfour
is this an oc 54..not the early filter.
If mem... Jul 7 2024, 04:00 PM
rudedude Other 911 owners have had issues with oil filters ... Jul 8 2024, 11:00 AM
mb911
Other 911 owners have had issues with oil filters... Jul 8 2024, 12:02 PM
930cabman
[quote name='rudedude' post='3155381' date='Jul 8... Jul 8 2024, 01:35 PM
mb911
[quote name='mb911' post='3155387' date='Jul 8 20... Jul 8 2024, 01:46 PM
technicalninja Seeing no oil at all in the filter would bug the c... Jul 8 2024, 02:10 PM
930cabman
Seeing no oil at all in the filter would bug the ... Jul 8 2024, 03:10 PM
mb911 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...oil-f... Jul 8 2024, 02:23 PM
930cabman
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...oil-... Jul 8 2024, 03:19 PM
930cabman https://mahle.integrityplatform.org/
Wonder if th... Jul 8 2024, 03:24 PM
mate914
https://mahle.integrityplatform.org/
Wonder if t... Jul 8 2024, 06:24 PM
930cabman
[quote name='930cabman' post='3155427' date='Jul ... Jul 8 2024, 07:00 PM
930cabman No good
Appears some sort of valve has found i... Jul 9 2024, 01:40 PM![]() ![]() |
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