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| fiacra |
Jul 5 2024, 08:23 AM
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Person.Woman.Man.Camera.TV ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 641 Joined: 1-March 19 From: East Bay Region - California Member No.: 22,920 Region Association: Northern California
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1975 1.8 fully stock California car. I just put in turbo tie rods as well as a new trailing arm bushing, so alignment was needed. Not easy to find shops that do alignment on these cars, but a local member recommended a racing shop about 30 miles away and I took it there. They asked if I wanted it aligned for "street driving" and I confirmed that was the case. Let me emphasize that this is a stock California car in well maintained condition (a previous owner had it for 44 years and really took care of it) and I'm a really mild street driver. It is rare I'll use every one of the 76hp this can put out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Street driving only, no AX, no racing. It drove fine getting to the shop, no pulling, no vibration, etc. They told me it drove "much better" after alignment, and that the alignment was way off, especially in the rear. I couldn't tell any difference in how it drove pre and post alignment, but remember I drive for fun and I'm not by any means an aggressive driver. I brought a bunch of 914Rubber sourced shims with me, but they needed none of them and in fact returned to me a bunch of shims that were already on the car. I didn't notice it at the time I got the car back, but the next day I could see the rear wheel stance was significantly different, with (in my opinion) a lot of camber. Prior to the alignment it had maybe 1-2 degrees of camber. Again, I can't tell any difference in how the car drives, but maybe I could if I really pushed it? My question is, is this correct? I've really not seen this amount of camber on other members cars. Also, I kind of hate the rear tires leaning inward look. Not sure if I should take it back and ask for this to be "corrected." Other options are to live with it, or take it to another shop. Any thoughts? Is this amount of camber correct?
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| fiacra |
Jul 7 2024, 08:08 AM
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Person.Woman.Man.Camera.TV ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 641 Joined: 1-March 19 From: East Bay Region - California Member No.: 22,920 Region Association: Northern California
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The pictures are deceptive, if you think they show a lowered car. The car is not lowered. The shop did not lower the car. I have not lowered the car.
They did check for accident damage, and they didn't find any. They also checked to see if I had a bent spindle. I didn't hear any mention of a bent strut. Nomenclature specific to our particular areas of expertise and knowledge can be confusing to someone without our fund of knowledge. If you come into my office I can confuse the hell out of you without much effort with an explanation that a colleague of mine would find concise and precise. I think I got the bottom line on his explanation, just didn't clearly follow the path to get there. I'll bring it back for them to recheck. We'll see what they say and I'll report back. At least two trusted members whose opinions I would hazard to guess most of us respect have spoken up to say they take their cars there. They deserve a chance to at least inspect their own work and see what conclusions they arrive at. I'm not happy about having to make a long drive, but I am positive I have done things that have inconvenienced other people without intending to do so. I won't stand in judgement, yet. Thanks everybody for your input. It has been helpful. |
fiacra Wheel Alignment Jul 5 2024, 08:23 AM
Superhawk996 What the alignment sheet say they set it to? The ... Jul 5 2024, 08:25 AM
fiacra
What the alignment sheet say they set it to?
By ... Jul 5 2024, 08:28 AM
Superhawk996 Doh - accidental post Jul 6 2024, 10:49 AM
technicalninja I'm gonna guess -2 degrees+
Be fine for an au... Jul 5 2024, 08:38 AM
Superhawk996 To my eye it looks like more than negative two deg... Jul 5 2024, 09:20 AM
SirAndy My bet is the jokers pulled all the shims and are ... Jul 5 2024, 09:26 AM
JamesM
My bet is the jokers pulled all the shims and are... Jul 5 2024, 01:10 PM
mgp4591
[quote name='SirAndy' post='3154842' date='Jul 5 ... Jul 6 2024, 11:52 PM
Montreal914 Car seems lowered although difficult to say.
Lowe... Jul 5 2024, 09:45 AM
burton73 This is a picture of your car when I sold it to yo... Jul 5 2024, 11:12 AM
rhodyguy What does the side view look like? Does the car si... Jul 5 2024, 07:07 PM
914_teener Ok....I've done 914 rear ends before. I know t... Jul 5 2024, 07:30 PM
fiacra
Ok....I've done 914 rear ends before. I know ... Jul 5 2024, 09:03 PM
914_teener
[quote name='914_teener' post='3154949' date='Jul... Jul 6 2024, 06:20 PM
worn [quotey easy to do.
Good luck...but still my adv... Jul 6 2024, 07:36 PM
Superhawk996
I suppose that learning to do it yourself will ... Jul 6 2024, 08:30 PM
bkrantz It looks low (which adds negative camber) and impr... Jul 5 2024, 08:16 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com 30 minutes neg camber only, if too many shims alre... Jul 6 2024, 09:15 AM
jim_hoyland Yup, great car. Saw it at C&C at Crystal Cove ... Jul 6 2024, 10:50 AM
fiacra OK, here's the sheet from the shop:
Jul 6 2024, 03:03 PM
Superhawk996
OK, here's the sheet from the shop:
Gotta ... Jul 6 2024, 06:03 PM
bkrantz Those numbers seem all over the place.
As for fro... Jul 6 2024, 08:59 PM
JeffBowlsby Roger Kraus Racing is/was the go to local shop for... Jul 6 2024, 09:00 PM
SirAndy
Roger Kraus Racing is/was the go to local shop fo... Jul 6 2024, 09:05 PM
fiacra
Roger Kraus Racing is/was the go to local shop fo... Jul 6 2024, 09:34 PM
Superhawk996
I assume these are what I should bring with me. ... Jul 7 2024, 01:24 AM
bkrantz
Roger Kraus Racing is/was the go to local shop f... Jul 7 2024, 08:58 PM
technicalninja
OK, here's the sheet from the shop:
@[url... Jul 7 2024, 07:52 AM
Superhawk996
I don't believe ANY of the numbers on that ... Jul 7 2024, 07:59 AM
fiacra
I don't believe ANY of the numbers on that... Jul 7 2024, 08:12 AM
technicalninja 3/4" of toe in will DESTROY a set of front ti... Jul 7 2024, 08:11 AM
tygaboy @fiacra Broheen - I have a buddy who is all about... Jul 7 2024, 08:45 AM
technicalninja
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 7 2024, 08:55 AM
jim_hoyland Two things I’ve learned over the years:
1. If it... Jul 8 2024, 10:31 AM
Craigers17 This is Excessive negative camber:
Jul 8 2024, 10:53 AM
worn
This is Excessive negative camber:
More cowbel... Jul 9 2024, 07:07 PM
MartyYeoman Sorry to hear you're having such a difficult t... Jul 9 2024, 09:01 AM
fiacra
Sorry to hear you're having such a difficult ... Jul 9 2024, 09:59 AM
technicalninja
This is Excessive negative camber:
I've al... Jul 9 2024, 08:44 PM
MartyYeoman Sorry it took so long to post this. Jul 20 2024, 12:11 PM
914_teener
Sorry it took so long to post this.
Back of th... Jul 20 2024, 02:22 PM

windforfun
Sorry it took so long to post this.
Back of t... Jul 20 2024, 03:18 PM
fiacra
Sorry it took so long to post this.
Thanks Mar... Jul 20 2024, 02:37 PM
bkrantz
Sorry it took so long to post this.
Thanks Ma... Jul 20 2024, 08:09 PM
Superhawk996
Probably a good decision. And I will always star... Jul 21 2024, 11:32 AM
technicalninja Changing the shim will alter the toe setting and t... Jul 20 2024, 02:54 PM
fiacra
Changing the shim will alter the toe setting and ... Jul 20 2024, 06:31 PM
Superhawk996 I’m so confused.
So the expert is advising you... Jul 21 2024, 11:28 AM
technicalninja The post stating -5.7 degrees was SATIRE!
914... Jul 21 2024, 12:29 PM
bkrantz
The post stating -5.7 degrees was SATIRE!
91... Jul 21 2024, 07:11 PM![]() ![]() |
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