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| emerygt350 |
Aug 29 2024, 03:19 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,438 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
Brand new ground strap, installed clean and brushed on both transmission and body. Completely failed me. Wire brushed the neg to body. Checked the cables and replaced the post to starter cable (it was questionable ). Car still wouldn't turn over. Added a new 6 gauge cable from the negative terminal to the spot where the coil attaches to the tin work, turns over like a new car. Even my gauges are working better. Wth. Could it just be the transmission case itself?
I remember an argument about additional ground straps a couple years ago, but can't find it. Any reason not to just keep my aftermarket ground strap? |
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Aug 31 2024, 04:14 PM
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Jerry ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,298 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None
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Brand new ground strap, installed clean and brushed on both transmission and body. Completely failed me. Wire brushed the neg to body. Checked the cables and replaced the post to starter cable (it was questionable ). Car still wouldn't turn over. Added a new 6 gauge cable from the negative terminal to the spot where the coil attaches to the tin work, turns over like a new car. Even my gauges are working better. Wth. Could it just be the transmission case itself? I remember an argument about additional ground straps a couple years ago, but can't find it. Any reason not to just keep my aftermarket ground strap? @emerygt350 Wow. There's a lot to unpack with your ground issue. Some questions: When did this issue start? Did you change anything? Added a new 6 gauge cable from the negative terminal Is this wire from the battery NEG to engine case in addition to the normal battery NEG to chassis? In this case, you've paralleled the new wire with the OEM current path. The OEM current path is battery NEG to chassis lug, then panel to panel to panel to the lug above the trans to the trans strap. If there's some issues panel to panel then you still have an issue with chassis ground as the entire chassis should be at ground. All electrical components use chassis as ground. If your chassis isn't a good ground, the issue is still there. The added cable helped the starter current loop but may mask the real issue. Do you have the OEM voltmeter in the cabin? If so it would be interesting to see if it changed. Even my gauges are working better. This may indicate a better ground at the gauges now. Question is what is that path? From battery NEG to engine case. Then where? Either through the accelerator cable, or the engine case to trans case to trans lug. If you were to connect your new cable from battery NEG to trans case bolt I bet it would work just as well. There might be something going on with the lug behind the battery or that panel. I remember an argument about additional ground straps @VaccaRabite One of those discussions was for Zach's alternator issues. Turns out powder coating the fan shroud inhibited the ground return for the alternator. A ground strap from alternator case to chassis solved the issue. |
emerygt350 Ground straps Aug 29 2024, 03:19 PM
930cabman 50 years of corrosion
It doesn't take much, b... Aug 29 2024, 03:51 PM
emerygt350 Corrosion where? I put a brand new strap on when ... Aug 29 2024, 04:14 PM
Superhawk996
Corrosion where? I put a brand new strap on when... Aug 29 2024, 04:46 PM
emerygt350
Corrosion where? I put a brand new strap on whe... Aug 29 2024, 04:56 PM
Superhawk996
I was measuring and it all looks good till you hi... Aug 29 2024, 05:01 PM
930cabman
I was measuring and it all looks good till you h... Aug 29 2024, 05:05 PM
brant Corrosion on the unit body and between the panels ... Aug 29 2024, 04:20 PM
Luke M LOL... Funny how it's three Upstate NY guys he... Aug 29 2024, 04:20 PM
anderssj Thanks for the post! I would be interested to ... Aug 29 2024, 04:26 PM
emerygt350
Thanks for the post! I would be interested to... Aug 29 2024, 04:59 PM
emerygt350 I know, I actually do read your posts, but I went ... Aug 29 2024, 05:10 PM
Superhawk996 So to answer your original question, I would not d... Aug 29 2024, 07:04 PM
r_towle Last time I dealt with this I ran a new cable from... Aug 29 2024, 09:19 PM
Superhawk996
Last time I dealt with this I ran a new cable fro... Aug 30 2024, 12:09 AM
914_teener Soooooooo.....coil mounted to the tin. That's ... Aug 29 2024, 09:30 PM
porschetub
Soooooooo.....coil mounted to the tin. That's... Aug 29 2024, 10:37 PM
emerygt350 Interesting, so the same stock place on the body, ... Aug 30 2024, 04:49 AM
Superhawk996
Not so sure I buy welding bearings and such, do ... Aug 30 2024, 07:40 AM
VaccaRabite I have an additional ground strap that goes from a... Aug 30 2024, 05:24 AM
Geezer914 I to ran a ground strap from the alternator to the... Aug 30 2024, 07:45 AM
davep
Added a new 6 gauge cable from the negative termi... Aug 30 2024, 08:59 AM
emerygt350
[quote name='emerygt350' post='3164447' date='Aug... Aug 30 2024, 09:07 AM
emerygt350 Interesting. My mustangs ground strap is on the b... Aug 30 2024, 09:05 AM
Superhawk996
Interesting. My mustangs ground strap is on the ... Aug 30 2024, 09:14 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com years ago I forgot to connect the trans ground str... Aug 30 2024, 09:13 AM
930cabman
years ago I forgot to connect the trans ground st... Aug 30 2024, 10:52 AM
emerygt350
years ago I forgot to connect the trans ground st... Aug 30 2024, 01:38 PM
emerygt350 I see. I moved it to that spot on the shroud. All... Aug 30 2024, 10:25 AM
930cabman
I see. I moved it to that spot on the shroud. Al... Aug 30 2024, 10:53 AM
914_teener
I see. I moved it to that spot on the shroud. A... Aug 31 2024, 11:27 AM
davep
All well and good, BUT, how is the connection bet... Aug 31 2024, 11:36 AM
914_teener
All well and good, BUT, how is the connection be... Aug 31 2024, 11:52 AM
930cabman
[quote name='davep' post='3164770' date='Aug 31 2... Aug 31 2024, 02:13 PM
Literati914 regarding the grounding "strap" you guys... Aug 30 2024, 10:26 AM
VaccaRabite
regarding the grounding "strap" you guy... Aug 30 2024, 11:42 AM
emerygt350
regarding the grounding "strap" you gu... Aug 30 2024, 01:39 PM

bkrantz
[quote name='VaccaRabite' post='3164638' date='Au... Aug 30 2024, 08:41 PM
StarBear
regarding the grounding "strap" you gu... Aug 31 2024, 07:14 AM
emerygt350 So good that my car turns over faster than ever be... Aug 30 2024, 11:26 AM
emerygt350 Yeah, this is pretty short, 16 inches I think. Th... Aug 31 2024, 06:39 AM
Literati914
Don't think the fan shrouds are aluminum.
... Aug 31 2024, 11:35 AM
emerygt350 It is interesting that on all of my other projects... Aug 31 2024, 02:43 PM
emerygt350
[quote name='emerygt350' post='3164447' date='Aug... Aug 31 2024, 04:33 PM![]() ![]() |
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