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> Porting a type 4 head, Not much of a short side
Shivers
post Sep 9 2024, 08:42 AM
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I moved this from the Paddock, thought I put it here. Because the port is almost straight, with little long side short side turns, with what there is , do you find it necessary to slow the flow down on the “short side” to get good flow out of the valve. I was reading about something mepstein posted a picture of. Small divots, like a golf ball. So I’m going to do that on the long side, just wondering if there is any reason not to also do it on the short side. Thanks guy’s smile.gif

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post Sep 11 2024, 09:44 AM
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I'd always wondered IF the dimples would help airflow in a tube.

That video says NO!

Unless your intake is SO BAD that you can have boundary layer separation like the backsides of a golf ball.

The T4 intake track does not have this problem.

The dimples LOOK cool as shit but after watching that video they don't look like they will help much.

One area where they MIGHT help is "wall wetting" where the fuel in the intake charge separates from the airflow and covers the walls of the intake.

This can be a problem, especially on V8 style manifolds where the outboard cylinders have a 90 degree turn in the final sections of the intake (think old school Chevy small block here).
The LS1 intake (and most modern V8 intakes) eliminate this problem anyways.

I believe ALL of the Porsche intakes (even the V8s) don't have this problem.
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post Sep 11 2024, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(technicalninja @ Sep 11 2024, 08:44 AM) *

I'd always wondered IF the dimples would help airflow in a tube.

That video says NO!

Unless your intake is SO BAD that you can have boundary layer separation like the backsides of a golf ball.

The T4 intake track does not have this problem.

The dimples LOOK cool as shit but after watching that video they don't look like they will help much.

One area where they MIGHT help is "wall wetting" where the fuel in the intake charge separates from the airflow and covers the walls of the intake.

This can be a problem, especially on V8 style manifolds where the outboard cylinders have a 90 degree turn in the final sections of the intake (think old school Chevy small block here).
The LS1 intake (and most modern V8 intakes) eliminate this problem anyways.

I believe ALL of the Porsche intakes (even the V8s) don't have this problem.


Well you got a lot more out of that word salad than I did. He did say no, not really, then I heard him talking about boundry seperation then he went on to talk about how it would not be necessary to dimple the whole tube, but just where the flow begins. Then he gave the bicyclist example and showed the small patches on the leading edge of the arms, but how dramatic the effect was from just a little dimpling. i may add some where the flow begins.
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Shivers   Porting a type 4 head   Sep 9 2024, 08:42 AM
Superhawk996   FWIW the intake port isn’t the bottleneck to flo...   Sep 9 2024, 11:07 AM
Shivers   FWIW the intake port isn’t the bottleneck to fl...   Sep 9 2024, 12:21 PM
Superhawk996   Thanks for the pictures, so far not seeing any s...   Sep 9 2024, 12:52 PM
Shivers   Thanks for the pictures, so far not seeing any ...   Sep 9 2024, 01:28 PM
burton73   @Shivers Just so you can see the HAM RAT head on ...   Sep 9 2024, 11:29 AM
rfinegan   Here is a pic 2.0 Porsche heads for my intake. Not...   Sep 9 2024, 11:43 AM
rfinegan   @burton73 can you post a pick or 2 of the chamber...   Sep 9 2024, 12:14 PM
burton73   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Sep 9 2024, 06:05 PM
914werke   Bob do you have pics of the exhaust?   Sep 9 2024, 12:17 PM
Superhawk996   Take a look at this thread and exhaust port cutawa...   Sep 9 2024, 12:36 PM
Shivers   Take a look at this thread and exhaust port cutaw...   Sep 9 2024, 01:45 PM
Shivers   Why golf balls are dimpled. ...   Sep 9 2024, 03:57 PM
Shivers   Calabria says the optimal surface coverage with di...   Sep 9 2024, 04:09 PM
Shivers   @burton73 Thanks Bob :)   Sep 10 2024, 08:23 AM
Shivers   It tells me that someone that knows a heck of a lo...   Sep 10 2024, 01:57 PM
infraredcalvin   If I’m understanding correctly, there is a short...   Sep 10 2024, 07:37 PM
Shivers   If I’m understanding correctly, there is a shor...   Sep 10 2024, 09:21 PM
live free & drive   This video explains more clearly about how dimples...   Sep 10 2024, 09:59 PM
Shivers   This video explains more clearly about how dimple...   Sep 10 2024, 10:06 PM
Shivers   This video explains more clearly about how dimple...   Sep 11 2024, 08:20 AM
technicalninja   This video explains more clearly about how dimple...   Sep 11 2024, 08:00 AM
technicalninja   I'd always wondered IF the dimples would help ...   Sep 11 2024, 09:44 AM
Shivers   I'd always wondered IF the dimples would help...   Sep 11 2024, 12:22 PM
nivekdodge   take blowgun, place golf ball on top , in the air...   Sep 11 2024, 11:47 AM
burton73   take blowgun, place golf ball on top , in the air...   Sep 11 2024, 12:35 PM
Shivers   [quote name='nivekdodge' post='3166959' date='Sep...   Sep 11 2024, 01:28 PM
Shivers   I was thinking about what that guy was saying abou...   Sep 12 2024, 11:35 AM
Superhawk996   Hmmmm Better dimple those velocity stacks :poke...   Sep 12 2024, 04:09 PM
Shivers   Hmmmm Better dimple those velocity stacks :pok...   Sep 12 2024, 04:30 PM
rfinegan   @burton73 Thanks for the pics of the 2.0 chambers...   Sep 12 2024, 04:22 PM
Superhawk996   Caveat - these are the 2.0L AA Chinese head casti...   Sep 13 2024, 05:41 PM


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