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Sep 29 2024, 05:20 PM
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I been driving my 914 this summer. Closing in on 5 Kim so far this year. When I go, I get the highest octane that I can find; 91 or 92 with no EtOH where I live, trending towards more ethanol as we get west. So, I have been old guy writing down the numbers and have consistently hit 31 -32 mpg. This decreases if I leave my gas cap off just before a drive with the RRC 2024 folks.
The interstates let you drive at around 80 mph, and that adds up to a light throttle 3,000 rpm with my gears. The car must be pretty good with airflow. |
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Oct 1 2024, 05:46 PM
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My 2056 gets around 24-25 mph at 3400-3500 rpm. AFR is around 32-34. Check your plugs to make sure you are not running lean. Your AFR numbers are different than mine. Air/Fuel ratio is usually based on air by weight/fuel by weight and stoic is 14.7/1 Often folks leave off the one. 14.7 is "perfect" combustion with exactly the right amount of oxygen to fuel for complete combustion of the fuel with "hopefully" the least amount of CO and HC being produced. 12.5 is rich, normally a max power mixture. 10.0 is PIG rich 16 is getting lean, some cars will do OK running 16. This is the beginning of "lean burn" IMO. You only want to see as high as 16 in cruise at speed. 18 is dangerously lean. A few max effort fuel economy vehicles run this high. You need computer controlled hyper fast FI with multiple knock sensors to make this work. Run an old school T4 with carbs at these numbers and you will MELT stuff... What does 32-34 refer too? The mileage numbers that members have been posting are interesting. Even seriously modified cars can achieve decent numbers if driven in a "highly responsible" manner. And that is NOT how I'd drive those cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) |
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Oct 2 2024, 04:21 PM
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Geezer914 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,115 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States
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My 2056 gets around 24-25 mph at 3400-3500 rpm. AFR is around 32-34. Check your plugs to make sure you are not running lean. Your AFR numbers are different than mine. Air/Fuel ratio is usually based on air by weight/fuel by weight and stoic is 14.7/1 Often folks leave off the one. 14.7 is "perfect" combustion with exactly the right amount of oxygen to fuel for complete combustion of the fuel with "hopefully" the least amount of CO and HC being produced. 12.5 is rich, normally a max power mixture. 10.0 is PIG rich 16 is getting lean, some cars will do OK running 16. This is the beginning of "lean burn" IMO. You only want to see as high as 16 in cruise at speed. 32-34 it is supposed to be 13.2-13.4 AFR. 18 is dangerously lean. A few max effort fuel economy vehicles run this high. You need computer controlled hyper fast FI with multiple knock sensors to make this work. Run an old school T4 with carbs at these numbers and you will MELT stuff... What does 32-34 refer too? The mileage numbers that members have been posting are interesting. Even seriously modified cars can achieve decent numbers if driven in a "highly responsible" manner. And that is NOT how I'd drive those cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) |
worn Driving around in my automobile Sep 29 2024, 05:20 PM
mepstein Light weight really helps. Sep 29 2024, 05:26 PM
technicalninja If you're hitting those numbers via gallons/mi... Sep 29 2024, 06:40 PM
Front yard mechanic Isn’t that a Chuck Berry tune Sep 29 2024, 08:22 PM
worn
Isn’t that a Chuck Berry tune
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930cabman
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worn
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brant
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emerygt350
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JamesM
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worn
Worn, I just did the Waumandee Hill climb/time tr... Oct 2 2024, 07:30 PM
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brant
On the subject of AFR and mileage - I remember wa... Oct 2 2024, 03:54 PM
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Montreal914 @worn
Can you provide a little more info?
What t... Oct 2 2024, 06:09 PM
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worn
I’d guess I do about the same. 3.2 with stock D... Oct 5 2024, 06:59 PM
ConeDodger
I’d guess I do about the same. 3.2 with stock ... Oct 6 2024, 07:49 AM
Root_Werks I posted this a while ago:
http://www.914world.co... Oct 3 2024, 01:03 PM
worn
I posted this a while ago:
http://www.914world.c... Oct 5 2024, 06:51 PM
Geezer914 13.2-13.4 AFR. Oct 3 2024, 01:19 PM
davehg My 71 2.7 twin plug with webers might see 14 mpg i... Oct 4 2024, 11:13 PM
brant He has gearing on his side Oct 5 2024, 09:58 AM
technicalninja
14.7 is "perfect" combustion with exac... Oct 5 2024, 12:40 PM
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technicalninja
Here is some really well presented data you might... Oct 5 2024, 07:28 PM
JamesM
With what you know don't you absolutely hate ... Oct 6 2024, 11:57 AM
emerygt350
With what you know don't you absolutely hate... Oct 7 2024, 06:15 AM![]() ![]() |
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