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Picked up a 76 out of texas that had been converted to single carb that just doesn't run very well. I decided to convert back to original FI, essentially everything is gone and I am working on understanding the system. I guess my first question is where does the fuel pump draw power from? there is a single black wire underneath the fuel tank that has no power to it but all the relays have been removed and Im waiting on those from pelican
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Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 1976 car should have a L jet instead of that D jet. Personally I prefer the L jet anyhow since it is quite a bit more mechanically robust in terms of all the connectors and wiring. I think the manifolds will have holes for three studs buy your heads will have four.
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,968 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 1976 car should have a L jet instead of that D jet. Personally I prefer the L jet anyhow since it is quite a bit more mechanically robust in terms of all the connectors and wiring. I think the manifolds will have holes for three studs buy your heads will have four. Um, no. 1976 914 2.0L GC code engines are DJet, 3 stud heads. The 912E is LJet maybe that’s what you are thinking about. |
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Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 1976 car should have a L jet instead of that D jet. Personally I prefer the L jet anyhow since it is quite a bit more mechanically robust in terms of all the connectors and wiring. I think the manifolds will have holes for three studs buy your heads will have four. Um, no. 1976 914 2.0L GC code engines are DJet, 3 stud heads. The 912E is LJet maybe that’s what you are thinking about. yeah jeffs right. no 76 l jet 1.8s. but the 76 D jet california 2.0 is in fact identical to the 75 D jet californian. its not a different set up. we did discover in all the californian air resources board certification material that the 76 models though classified as 76 MY were allowed to conform with 75 MY standards under the provision that all cars were manufactured before jan 01 1976 calendar year. ie they were 1975 manfucture. this is in fact why the 76s are only a half year car. and similarly the 912E is also a half year car in terms of MY. the 912s conform to 76 MY CARB regs and in order to do that those engines ran the L jet not the 914s. the 912E is the second half of 1976 MY car. all were an interim provision until the 924 could arrive in the USA. it doesn't really help a 76 model year 914 owner with passing smog. as noted, its got to be all intact on the car. but in terms of obtaining the emissions equipment the 76 is exactly shared with the 75 but it does have to be the california engine not the 75 49 states engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) apparently (as reported by one member here) many years ago a deal was made with some 76 owners to be released with conforming to that 75 cut off year due to the technicality of the original CARB certification that accepted that 76 914s were for the purposes of certification 75. but since that time the authorities have cracked down and no longer allow that special case. EDIT you need the works for 76 california smog. cat. EGR. smog pump. even the exhaust system (semi exhaust reactor heat exchangers). the whole muffler set up which has the cat along with the EGR bleed tube. its a fair bit of stuff. and don't forget the emission sticker. someone posted here they want to see the emission sticker in the engine bay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) better off with a 75. same car. exactly same car. no smog obligations. |
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Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 1976 car should have a L jet instead of that D jet. Personally I prefer the L jet anyhow since it is quite a bit more mechanically robust in terms of all the connectors and wiring. I think the manifolds will have holes for three studs buy your heads will have four. Um, no. 1976 914 2.0L GC code engines are DJet, 3 stud heads. The 912E is LJet maybe that’s what you are thinking about. yeah jeffs right. no 76 l jet 1.8s. but the 76 D jet california 2.0 is in fact identical to the 75 D jet californian. its not a different set up. we did discover in all the californian air resources board certification material that the 76 models though classified as 76 MY were allowed to conform with 75 MY standards under the provision that all cars were manufactured before jan 01 1976 calendar year. ie they were 1975 manfucture. this is in fact why the 76s are only a half year car. and similarly the 912E is also a half year car in terms of MY. the 912s conform to 76 MY CARB regs and in order to do that those engines ran the L jet not the 914s. the 912E is the second half of 1976 MY car. all were an interim provision until the 924 could arrive in the USA. it doesn't really help a 76 model year 914 owner with passing smog. as noted, its got to be all intact on the car. but in terms of obtaining the emissions equipment the 76 is exactly shared with the 75 but it does have to be the california engine not the 75 49 states engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) apparently (as reported by one member here) many years ago a deal was made with some 76 owners to be released with conforming to that 75 cut off year due to the technicality of the original CARB certification that accepted that 76 914s were for the purposes of certification 75. but since that time the authorities have cracked down and no longer allow that special case. EDIT you need the works for 76 california smog. cat. EGR. smog pump. even the exhaust system (semi exhaust reactor heat exchangers). the whole muffler set up which has the cat along with the EGR bleed tube. its a fair bit of stuff. and don't forget the emission sticker. someone posted here they want to see the emission sticker in the engine bay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) better off with a 75. same car. exactly same car. no smog obligations. Hello, I was reading your post and I am in California and purchased a 1976 914 that is a 49 state car that has a sticker on the drivers door jamb that say Non-Catalyist ,it does have a smog pump that I have just found a good replacement for .I have read many of your smog in California posts and have a question.My car was initially sold in Michigan,then moved to Colorado and finally was sold to someone in California in 1985 and has been registered in California continuously until 2019 when it was then donated to a cars for charity organization .I acquired it in 2022 . I am now in the process of trying to get it registered in California . I have 25K invested so far and it seems like I am fighting a losing battle based on all the posts I read on the subject of registering a 1976 model in California. My engine has been rebuilt and all the 49 state smog equipment is intact and working but no cat. What are your thoughts about my endeavor. Thank you Ron |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,806 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille ![]() ![]() |
Also that is the wrong FI for your car. Your 1976 car should have a L jet instead of that D jet. Personally I prefer the L jet anyhow since it is quite a bit more mechanically robust in terms of all the connectors and wiring. I think the manifolds will have holes for three studs buy your heads will have four. Um, no. 1976 914 2.0L GC code engines are DJet, 3 stud heads. The 912E is LJet maybe that’s what you are thinking about. yeah jeffs right. no 76 l jet 1.8s. but the 76 D jet california 2.0 is in fact identical to the 75 D jet californian. its not a different set up. we did discover in all the californian air resources board certification material that the 76 models though classified as 76 MY were allowed to conform with 75 MY standards under the provision that all cars were manufactured before jan 01 1976 calendar year. ie they were 1975 manfucture. this is in fact why the 76s are only a half year car. and similarly the 912E is also a half year car in terms of MY. the 912s conform to 76 MY CARB regs and in order to do that those engines ran the L jet not the 914s. the 912E is the second half of 1976 MY car. all were an interim provision until the 924 could arrive in the USA. it doesn't really help a 76 model year 914 owner with passing smog. as noted, its got to be all intact on the car. but in terms of obtaining the emissions equipment the 76 is exactly shared with the 75 but it does have to be the california engine not the 75 49 states engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) apparently (as reported by one member here) many years ago a deal was made with some 76 owners to be released with conforming to that 75 cut off year due to the technicality of the original CARB certification that accepted that 76 914s were for the purposes of certification 75. but since that time the authorities have cracked down and no longer allow that special case. EDIT you need the works for 76 california smog. cat. EGR. smog pump. even the exhaust system (semi exhaust reactor heat exchangers). the whole muffler set up which has the cat along with the EGR bleed tube. its a fair bit of stuff. and don't forget the emission sticker. someone posted here they want to see the emission sticker in the engine bay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) better off with a 75. same car. exactly same car. no smog obligations. Hello, I was reading your post and I am in California and purchased a 1976 914 that is a 49 state car that has a sticker on the drivers door jamb that say Non-Catalyist ,it does have a smog pump that I have just found a good replacement for .I have read many of your smog in California posts and have a question.My car was initially sold in Michigan,then moved to Colorado and finally was sold to someone in California in 1985 and has been registered in California continuously until 2019 when it was then donated to a cars for charity organization .I acquired it in 2022 . I am now in the process of trying to get it registered in California . I have 25K invested so far and it seems like I am fighting a losing battle based on all the posts I read on the subject of registering a 1976 model in California. My engine has been rebuilt and all the 49 state smog equipment is intact and working but no cat. What are your thoughts about my endeavor. Thank you Ron Hmmm, don't really know the ins and outs of california regarding registering 49 states cars back in the 80s. maybe you could do it as a resident if you had come in from out of state as the owner of the car in that other state prior.. or maybe by 85 you did not need to take your car in for smog by that point in time. though against that argument i do recall i had to smog my 74 49 states 1.8 when i lived in chicago. that was 1990 so i was still required to smog it. i seem to remember that chicago was one of those cities that maintained stricter smog laws (in terms of testing) than many other non california major cities. my feeling is you would only stand a chance of registering it and passing smog if it had the california certification emissions stickers and conformed to the specs of those stickers and what CARB has on file regarding the equipment and specs. so it would need a catalyst sticker in the door jamb. and the yellow emissions sticker usually on the engine fan casting i think in 75 and 76 would also have to conform to the california spec. the emission stickers do i believe note the engine families as different. i'm more abreast of L jet stuff than D jet. and of course there are no L jet 1.8s for 76 MY. but jeff bowlsby as the 76 D jet stuff on his website. the 49 states car is noted as engine family 17. with emissions equipment noted on sticker as EM/EFI/AIR. that translates as Engine Management, Electronic Fuel Injection/Air Pump. engine management and Electronic Fuel Injection is the catch all for the D jet system less the additional items that went on in 75 on. the california car is noted as engine family 18. with emissions equipment noted on sticker as EM/EFI/AIR/EGR/CAT. so not only did they have an air pump as per 49 states, they also had an exhaust gas recirculation system along with cat. i did read something once from a member here a few years back saying that he was looking for the correct emissions sticker for his car as the authorities were being that pendantic. it even it had to have the emissions sticker along with equipment. my feeling is you are probably up against a bureaucracy that wants to see it all one way and take the cars off the road. i mean i read the news here and you get the sense that california is real zealot territory when it comes to environmental laws. so maybe your chances are not good. esp since all records would indicate the car was a 49 state car to begin with and never in its life conformed to the CARB regulations. |
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