1976 fuel injection questions Options

[914incali]

Picked up a 76 out of texas that had been converted to single carb that just doesn't run very well. I decided to convert back to original FI, essentially everything is gone and I am working on understanding the system. I guess my first question is where does the fuel pump draw power from? there is a single black wire underneath the fuel tank that has no power to it but all the relays have been removed and Im waiting on those from pelican

[wonkipop]

@Ron914

here is what CARB would have on file for the 76.
its all the bits they are looking for listed with part numbers.





can't see that part number of the item mr. b has posted.
but i am sure it will be there somewhere somehow.
mr. b would know.
they are noting some items enrichment sensor and pressure sensor.
whether these are the same thing not sure.
not really up on the old D jet or the complications of CARB emissions.

i do know that all the components are shared from 75 to 76 and do not change.
ie a 75 calif = a 76 calif.
and a 75 49 states = a 76 49 s.
but the big thing is that a 75 calif and 75 49 states are different beasts.

[Ron914]

@Ron914

here is what CARB would have on file for the 76.
its all the bits they are looking for listed with part numbers.





can't see that part number of the item mr. b has posted.
but i am sure it will be there somewhere somehow.
mr. b would know.
they are noting some items enrichment sensor and pressure sensor.
whether these are the same thing not sure.
not really up on the old D jet or the complications of CARB emissions.

i do know that all the components are shared from 75 to 76 and do not change.
ie a 75 calif = a 76 calif.
and a 75 49 states = a 76 49 s.
but the big thing is that a 75 calif and 75 49 states are different beasts.

Thank you bothT for your advice ,this was not the news I was hoping to hear . I somehow assumed since this was a 49 state car that has been continuously registered and smogged for 34 years in California that as long as I had all the original equipment installed and working it would pass a smog check as it has since 1985 . I have spent more than I thought on this car than I thought to get back on the road and I'm starting to think I should just try to sale in another state and look for another one .I am going to just take it in to a star station and see what happens and if its possible to get a wavier as a 49 state car . I wish I could ask the previous owner how he was getting it to pass a smog check for 34 years but that is not possible .

[fiacra]

@Ron914

Thank you bothT for your advice ,this was not the news I was hoping to hear . I somehow assumed since this was a 49 state car that has been continuously registered and smogged for 34 years in California that as long as I had all the original equipment installed and working it would pass a smog check as it has since 1985 . I have spent more than I thought on this car than I thought to get back on the road and I'm starting to think I should just try to sale in another state and look for another one .I am going to just take it in to a star station and see what happens and if its possible to get a wavier as a 49 state car . I wish I could ask the previous owner how he was getting it to pass a smog check for 34 years but that is not possible .

@Ron914
You don't need a waiver. I have brought a 49 state car into California before (not a 914) and at the time I was told that as long as it is labeled as a Federally compliant car and not labeled as a car originally sold in California it will not be disqualified for not having the California smog package installed on it. You still have to pass the smog check and meet all the emissions requirements. The car must have all of its original equipment on it (for example, it cannot have been converted to carbs). My advice is that if you are ready to try and get it smogged, go for it. Give it a good run on the freeway and make sure it is fully warmed up and not sitting before being tested. Obviously it must be in good tune. If you fail the test the first time just look at the numbers and tune it from there. For example, if the HC is high then lean out the mixture a bit until you get it right. You can play with the timing to affect the numbers, or change the heat range on the spark plugs, etc. I went through this with a '79 Super Beetle with L-Jet, and it took seven tries but I did get it to pass. I then sold it as quick as I could (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Here's the link to that thread on the Samba if you want to see what I went through with that car.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic...03348a6294adfdb

Lots of information and advice on the Samba about how to pass the CA smog check, but it will all be about L-Jet. Nonetheless you might find it helpful.

I know there is at least one member in SoCal who has a '76 that they swear passes smog check every two years without problems. You might be able to do the same. But just remember you will have to smog it every two years and if you have trouble this time you can bet it won't get easier.

Here's the link to find out the smog history for your car. All you need is the license plate number. It won't tell you where it was tested, but it will tell you when it was tested and if it passed. I routinely check that when I'm looking at a used car. If it has a number of failed tests I keep looking.
https://www.bar.ca.gov/inspection

[Ron914]

@Ron914

Thank you bothT for your advice ,this was not the news I was hoping to hear . I somehow assumed since this was a 49 state car that has been continuously registered and smogged for 34 years in California that as long as I had all the original equipment installed and working it would pass a smog check as it has since 1985 . I have spent more than I thought on this car than I thought to get back on the road and I'm starting to think I should just try to sale in another state and look for another one .I am going to just take it in to a star station and see what happens and if its possible to get a wavier as a 49 state car . I wish I could ask the previous owner how he was getting it to pass a smog check for 34 years but that is not possible .

@Ron914
You don't need a waiver. I have brought a 49 state car into California before (not a 914) and at the time I was told that as long as it is labeled as a Federally compliant car and not labeled as a car originally sold in California it will not be disqualified for not having the California smog package installed on it. You still have to pass the smog check and meet all the emissions requirements. The car must have all of its original equipment on it (for example, it cannot have been converted to carbs). My advice is that if you are ready to try and get it smogged, go for it. Give it a good run on the freeway and make sure it is fully warmed up and not sitting before being tested. Obviously it must be in good tune. If you fail the test the first time just look at the numbers and tune it from there. For example, if the HC is high then lean out the mixture a bit until you get it right. You can play with the timing to affect the numbers, or change the heat range on the spark plugs, etc. I went through this with a '79 Super Beetle with L-Jet, and it took seven tries but I did get it to pass. I then sold it as quick as I could (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Here's the link to that thread on the Samba if you want to see what I went through with that car.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic...03348a6294adfdb

Lots of information and advice on the Samba about how to pass the CA smog check, but it will all be about L-Jet. Nonetheless you might find it helpful.

I know there is at least one member in SoCal who has a '76 that they swear passes smog check every two years without problems. You might be able to do the same. But just remember you will have to smog it every two years and if you have trouble this time you can bet it won't get easier.

Here's the link to find out the smog history for your car. All you need is the license plate number. It won't tell you where it was tested, but it will tell you when it was tested and if it passed. I routinely check that when I'm looking at a used car. If it has a number of failed tests I keep looking.
https://www.bar.ca.gov/inspection

Thank you so much for that link . I put in my license plate and it showed 14 tests since 1996 12 passes,1 fail and 1 gross polluter. also listed was the following information , star station -required ,refereee certification-no ,program enhanced . It sounds like I have a good chance it should pass .I have rebuilt the motor and other than the idle still a bit high at 1150 ( I will work on that ) it seems to run well.When I got the car the motor had already been torn down in preparation for a rebuild and I found that a few critical parts were missing or damaged and the pulley was missing from the air injection pump ( I located another one from a 914 world member that had a local garage sale ) .Since I have all the 49 state original equipment on the car I feel encouraged it just might pass . After looking at it in my garage for over two years I just might get to finally drive it legally .

[wonkipop]

@Ron914

Thank you bothT for your advice ,this was not the news I was hoping to hear . I somehow assumed since this was a 49 state car that has been continuously registered and smogged for 34 years in California that as long as I had all the original equipment installed and working it would pass a smog check as it has since 1985 . I have spent more than I thought on this car than I thought to get back on the road and I'm starting to think I should just try to sale in another state and look for another one .I am going to just take it in to a star station and see what happens and if its possible to get a wavier as a 49 state car . I wish I could ask the previous owner how he was getting it to pass a smog check for 34 years but that is not possible .

@Ron914
You don't need a waiver. I have brought a 49 state car into California before (not a 914) and at the time I was told that as long as it is labeled as a Federally compliant car and not labeled as a car originally sold in California it will not be disqualified for not having the California smog package installed on it. You still have to pass the smog check and meet all the emissions requirements. The car must have all of its original equipment on it (for example, it cannot have been converted to carbs). My advice is that if you are ready to try and get it smogged, go for it. Give it a good run on the freeway and make sure it is fully warmed up and not sitting before being tested. Obviously it must be in good tune. If you fail the test the first time just look at the numbers and tune it from there. For example, if the HC is high then lean out the mixture a bit until you get it right. You can play with the timing to affect the numbers, or change the heat range on the spark plugs, etc. I went through this with a '79 Super Beetle with L-Jet, and it took seven tries but I did get it to pass. I then sold it as quick as I could (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Here's the link to that thread on the Samba if you want to see what I went through with that car.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic...03348a6294adfdb

Lots of information and advice on the Samba about how to pass the CA smog check, but it will all be about L-Jet. Nonetheless you might find it helpful.

I know there is at least one member in SoCal who has a '76 that they swear passes smog check every two years without problems. You might be able to do the same. But just remember you will have to smog it every two years and if you have trouble this time you can bet it won't get easier.

Here's the link to find out the smog history for your car. All you need is the license plate number. It won't tell you where it was tested, but it will tell you when it was tested and if it passed. I routinely check that when I'm looking at a used car. If it has a number of failed tests I keep looking.
https://www.bar.ca.gov/inspection

Thank you so much for that link . I put in my license plate and it showed 14 tests since 1996 12 passes,1 fail and 1 gross polluter. also listed was the following information , star station -required ,refereee certification-no ,program enhanced . It sounds like I have a good chance it should pass .I have rebuilt the motor and other than the idle still a bit high at 1150 ( I will work on that ) it seems to run well.When I got the car the motor had already been torn down in preparation for a rebuild and I found that a few critical parts were missing or damaged and the pulley was missing from the air injection pump ( I located another one from a 914 world member that had a local garage sale ) .Since I have all the 49 state original equipment on the car I feel encouraged it just might pass . After looking at it in my garage for over two years I just might get to finally drive it legally .

you got to give it a go.
or you will never know.
best of british luck. fingers crossed you win. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)