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| Mr Beckstar |
Jan 25 2025, 05:37 PM
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Hi all.
I have a 4 cylinder 2 litre and am adding a remote oil filter and oil cooler circuit via a spin on adaptor attached to the stock oil filter console mount. But I noticed the oil filter bypass valve in the stock oil filter mount (circled in photo below) and now I’m concerned that, at high rpm, I’ll be bypassing the remote cooler/filter circuit. Does anyone know the bypass valve relief pressure setting? Knowing that would at least allow me to judge whether it’s an issue. |
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| technicalninja |
Jan 27 2025, 08:19 PM
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Where in the world did you come up with 3 psi? Montreal914 and Chris Foley said it’s “a couple of PSI” so I’ve taken 3PSI as a bypass valve setting. I can’t find any better information. I appreciate the idea that you’re going to try to measure the pressure drop across the filter but I’d seriously suggest you look into the accuracy of the gauges you’re using to do the measurements. If you’re using conventional dash mounted pressure gauges, the measurement will be lost in the noise and inaccuracy of the gauges. As a mechanical engineer, I will tell you that if I were trying to do what you’re proposing, it would be done on the bench and the test would be done on the filter console only without bringing an bunch of other variables into the test. Sorry, I mustn’t have been clear. I want to measure the extra backpressure created by the entire remote filter/cooler loop attached to the standard filter console. That includes the hose, the hose fittings, the remote filter mount, the oil cooler and the remote filter. I’m also a mechanical engineer and done a fair bit of test work/condition monitoring in my life; I’m comfortable I can get the necessary accuracy to achieve a practical result. I mean, if it turns out it’s less than 5 PSI and hard to see the drop on the instruments, then it’s probably just a case of making sure the modified stock bypass valve is set to about 10 PSI and it will be all good. And yes the accuracy of these gauges is not awesome, but I can reverse the connection points and take the average to make sure the conclusions aren’t too far skewed. If you’re that worried about bypassing the external cooler, you should be using a full flow cooler and should not be using a spin on adapter. Yes, that makes sense to me now. However, it was already installed by others. It cost me a fortune through a highly experienced VW shop that’s been trading for 50 years. I just spent a small fortune fixing all the poor workmanship, poor material selection and poor routing of all the hoses. I didn’t know about the filter bypass and nor was anything mentioned to me about the limitations of the system when I paid for the job to be done. It’s only when I worked on it myself that I noticed the filter bypass valve. I’m quite disappointed about the whole thing. Anyway, moving forward, I'm happy to spend a bit of time and effort making it work better. I don’t really want to spend another small fortune redoing the whole thing again unless I have to. Sadly, the old saying "if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself" is almost always true... Whenever I take a car in for factory warranty work, I ALWAYS have an envelope taped to the steering wheel addressed to "The technician working on this car". Inside is a gift card to a nearby eating joint, Chilies, Outback, whatever. And a note: 'Been in your shoes, HATE WP! Please accept this token of gratitude for your careful considerations with my vehicle". This works SOOOO freaking good! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ninja.gif) |
Mr Beckstar Bypass Valve on Stock Oil Filter Console Jan 25 2025, 05:37 PM
Montreal914 Good concern and already discussed here in the pas... Jan 25 2025, 06:09 PM
Mr Beckstar
Good concern and already discussed here in the pa... Jan 26 2025, 05:16 AM
Montreal914 Looks like it is a couple of psi.
Read @[url=htt... Jan 26 2025, 09:55 AM
Superhawk996 I hate chiming in on this because I don’t have a... Jan 26 2025, 12:38 PM
technicalninja :agree:
I believe every single ICE engine with b... Jan 26 2025, 01:00 PM
Mr Beckstar Thanks for the great responses everyone :D
If i... Jan 27 2025, 07:11 AM
Superhawk996 Where in the world did you come up with 3 psi?
I ... Jan 27 2025, 07:44 AM
Mr Beckstar
Where in the world did you come up with 3 psi?
M... Jan 27 2025, 07:17 PM
Superhawk996
I’m also a mechanical engineer and done a fair... Jan 27 2025, 08:15 PM
Mr Beckstar
I’m also a mechanical engineer and done a fai... Jan 28 2025, 01:31 AM
Superhawk996
The spring will dictate the [force], the [area] i... Jan 28 2025, 07:54 AM
Mr Beckstar
The spring will dictate the [force], the [area] ... Jan 29 2025, 04:00 AM
emerygt350 And why on earth would you want to send cold oil t... Jan 27 2025, 06:22 PM
Mr Beckstar
And why on earth would you want to send cold oil ... Jan 27 2025, 07:22 PM
Mr Beckstar
Sadly, the old saying "if you want somethin... Jan 28 2025, 01:35 AM
technicalninja
I’m also a mechanical engineer and done a fai... Jan 27 2025, 08:25 PM
Mr Beckstar
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3189070' date='J... Jan 28 2025, 01:38 AM
GregAmy Can I insert just a couple basic questions here?
... Jan 28 2025, 08:11 AM
Mr Beckstar
Can I insert just a couple basic questions here?
... Jan 29 2025, 04:16 AM
Superhawk996 I don’t want to answer for OP but my understandi... Jan 28 2025, 10:15 AM
GregAmy
I don’t want to answer for OP but my understand... Jan 28 2025, 10:23 AM

Superhawk996
I suggest it's a non-issue. But if you're... Jan 28 2025, 10:27 AM

Mr Beckstar
I don’t want to answer for OP but my understan... Jan 29 2025, 04:26 AM
Mr Beckstar
…I view this discussion as largely theoretica... Mar 11 2025, 04:17 AM
Mr Beckstar I looked at those two links and they’re not rele... Jan 29 2025, 04:24 AM
Mr Beckstar The oil filter bypass valve piqued my interest so ... Feb 21 2025, 03:31 AM
Mr Beckstar The above pressure readings were measured using th... Feb 21 2025, 04:10 AM
Superhawk996 Interesting data points.
Food for thought on the ... Feb 21 2025, 08:40 AM
Mr Beckstar Okay, I just used a brand new gauge with 0-15 PSI ... Mar 11 2025, 03:13 AM
Mr Beckstar Next step is to fit the two pressure tappings into... Mar 11 2025, 03:29 AM
Superhawk996 You’re in uncharted territory as far as I know. ... Mar 11 2025, 07:06 AM
Mr Beckstar
You’re in uncharted territory as far as I know.... Mar 12 2025, 02:29 AM
Superhawk996 Food for thought
If you look at histograms of av... Mar 12 2025, 07:55 AM
Mr Beckstar
Food for thought
If you look at histograms of a... Mar 13 2025, 01:49 AM
Superhawk996
At 68 MPH, the engine’s doing 4,200 rpm. Bei... Mar 13 2025, 06:46 AM![]() ![]() |
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