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> Bypass Valve on Stock Oil Filter Console, Looking for relief pressure of bypass valve to help with design of remote oil filter and cooler
Mr Beckstar
post Jan 25 2025, 05:37 PM
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Hi all.

I have a 4 cylinder 2 litre and am adding a remote oil filter and oil cooler circuit via a spin on adaptor attached to the stock oil filter console mount. But I noticed the oil filter bypass valve in the stock oil filter mount (circled in photo below) and now I’m concerned that, at high rpm, I’ll be bypassing the remote cooler/filter circuit. Does anyone know the bypass valve relief pressure setting? Knowing that would at least allow me to judge whether it’s an issue.

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post Jan 27 2025, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(Mr Beckstar @ Jan 27 2025, 09:17 PM) *

I’m also a mechanical engineer and done a fair bit of test work/condition monitoring in my life

Sweet - so let’s review the check valve. It works via differential pressure that is a function of the area of the check ball exposed on the filter supply side (which is smaller) and the area of the check ball that is behind the filter (which is larger).

The spring that is there is very low rate and basically exists only to keep the check ball in contact with the orifice during initial start up before oil travels through the filter media reaching the back side of the check ball.

So how exactly are you going to modify the check valve to adjust the pressure at which it operates since that is a function of the exposed ball areas on each side of the orifice?

Basically your options are plug it completely or design your own check valve by altering the ratio of exposed check ball areas.

Food for thought.


Thanks Hawk!
I'd never thought about it before, modifying that will be almost untestable.

Every modification I've ever done (or seen!) to these was to plug them off which is GRAVY to do.

No one has said "lets increase the bypass pressure point".

It's always been "plug that crap OFF".
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post Jan 28 2025, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE(technicalninja @ Jan 27 2025, 08:25 PM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Jan 27 2025, 08:15 PM) *

QUOTE(Mr Beckstar @ Jan 27 2025, 09:17 PM) *

I’m also a mechanical engineer and done a fair bit of test work/condition monitoring in my life

Sweet - so let’s review the check valve. It works via differential pressure that is a function of the area of the check ball exposed on the filter supply side (which is smaller) and the area of the check ball that is behind the filter (which is larger).

The spring that is there is very low rate and basically exists only to keep the check ball in contact with the orifice during initial start up before oil travels through the filter media reaching the back side of the check ball.

So how exactly are you going to modify the check valve to adjust the pressure at which it operates since that is a function of the exposed ball areas on each side of the orifice?

Basically your options are plug it completely or design your own check valve by altering the ratio of exposed check ball areas.

Food for thought.


Thanks Hawk!
I'd never thought about it before, modifying that will be almost untestable.

Every modification I've ever done (or seen!) to these was to plug them off which is GRAVY to do.

No one has said "lets increase the bypass pressure point".

It's always been "plug that crap OFF".


I want to make sure I don’t create an excess pressure issue for the stock oil pump but I also want to make sure whatever I do works. A stronger spring will compensate for the extra backpressure of the remote filter/cooling circuit. I’m a bit concerned about blocking it completely, but maybe I shouldn’t be? I’ve used 5/8” full flow fittings and hose, and the cooler and remote filter mount use -10 ORB (5/8” O-ring sealed) fittings. I’m just not sure whether that setup will result in peak backpressure with hot oil of eg 5 PSI (ie in the the remote circuit) or something much larger.
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Mr Beckstar   Bypass Valve on Stock Oil Filter Console   Jan 25 2025, 05:37 PM
Montreal914   Good concern and already discussed here in the pas...   Jan 25 2025, 06:09 PM
Mr Beckstar   Good concern and already discussed here in the pa...   Jan 26 2025, 05:16 AM
Montreal914   Looks like it is a couple of psi. Read @[url=htt...   Jan 26 2025, 09:55 AM
Superhawk996   I hate chiming in on this because I don’t have a...   Jan 26 2025, 12:38 PM
technicalninja   :agree: I believe every single ICE engine with b...   Jan 26 2025, 01:00 PM
Mr Beckstar   Thanks for the great responses everyone :D If i...   Jan 27 2025, 07:11 AM
Superhawk996   Where in the world did you come up with 3 psi? I ...   Jan 27 2025, 07:44 AM
Mr Beckstar   Where in the world did you come up with 3 psi? M...   Jan 27 2025, 07:17 PM
Superhawk996   I’m also a mechanical engineer and done a fair...   Jan 27 2025, 08:15 PM
Mr Beckstar   I’m also a mechanical engineer and done a fai...   Jan 28 2025, 01:31 AM
Superhawk996   The spring will dictate the [force], the [area] i...   Jan 28 2025, 07:54 AM
Mr Beckstar   The spring will dictate the [force], the [area] ...   Jan 29 2025, 04:00 AM
emerygt350   And why on earth would you want to send cold oil t...   Jan 27 2025, 06:22 PM
Mr Beckstar   And why on earth would you want to send cold oil ...   Jan 27 2025, 07:22 PM
technicalninja   Where in the world did you come up with 3 psi? ...   Jan 27 2025, 08:19 PM
Mr Beckstar   Sadly, the old saying "if you want somethin...   Jan 28 2025, 01:35 AM
technicalninja   I’m also a mechanical engineer and done a fai...   Jan 27 2025, 08:25 PM
Mr Beckstar   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='3189070' date='J...   Jan 28 2025, 01:38 AM
GregAmy   Can I insert just a couple basic questions here? ...   Jan 28 2025, 08:11 AM
Mr Beckstar   Can I insert just a couple basic questions here? ...   Jan 29 2025, 04:16 AM
Superhawk996   I don’t want to answer for OP but my understandi...   Jan 28 2025, 10:15 AM
GregAmy   I don’t want to answer for OP but my understand...   Jan 28 2025, 10:23 AM
Superhawk996   I suggest it's a non-issue. But if you're...   Jan 28 2025, 10:27 AM
Mr Beckstar   I don’t want to answer for OP but my understan...   Jan 29 2025, 04:26 AM
Mr Beckstar   …I view this discussion as largely theoretica...   Mar 11 2025, 04:17 AM
Mr Beckstar   I looked at those two links and they’re not rele...   Jan 29 2025, 04:24 AM
Mr Beckstar   The oil filter bypass valve piqued my interest so ...   Feb 21 2025, 03:31 AM
Mr Beckstar   The above pressure readings were measured using th...   Feb 21 2025, 04:10 AM
Superhawk996   Interesting data points. Food for thought on the ...   Feb 21 2025, 08:40 AM
Mr Beckstar   Okay, I just used a brand new gauge with 0-15 PSI ...   Mar 11 2025, 03:13 AM
Mr Beckstar   Next step is to fit the two pressure tappings into...   Mar 11 2025, 03:29 AM
Superhawk996   You’re in uncharted territory as far as I know. ...   Mar 11 2025, 07:06 AM
Mr Beckstar   You’re in uncharted territory as far as I know....   Mar 12 2025, 02:29 AM
Superhawk996   Food for thought If you look at histograms of av...   Mar 12 2025, 07:55 AM
Mr Beckstar   Food for thought If you look at histograms of a...   Mar 13 2025, 01:49 AM
Superhawk996   At 68 MPH, the engine’s doing 4,200 rpm. Bei...   Mar 13 2025, 06:46 AM


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