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| sdoolin |
Feb 7 2025, 04:42 PM
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Rebuilding(ish) my 2056. On my first build I was able to achieve a compression ratio of very nearly 9.0:1. With this build, I am having to add .020 spacers below the jugs to get any measurable deck height in the jugs. I am calculating a compression ratio of 8.6:1.
Will I notice the loss in compression ratio? |
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| Jack Standz |
Feb 8 2025, 03:04 PM
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Bolted things up on one side of the engine today and clayed the heads. I am measuring more than 0.1" between piston and valves. From my last build, this seems safe? I am double and triple checking as I have lost some trust in my own capabilities to do this stuff. Older than I used to be. This is with a .020" spacer below the jugs. No "gaskets" in the heads. A lot of this stuff requires carefully designing, measuring and implementing it into your engine build. We can't know what's up with your motor by typing on our keyboards. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Heck, we don't know what cam you're running and whether it's lift exceeds coil bind in your heads. This is an important, but different issue than either piston to valve clearance or deck height. We also don't know anything about your last build and how it went (or didn't). Yes, double and triple check your measurements. Make sure you rotate the motor through at least 720 degrees (two+ full revolutions). It takes 2 revolutions of the crankshaft to complete one combustion cycle. Depending on your cam, you can have valves hit a piston at a point other than Top Dead Center(TDC). And, of course, clearance between the piston and valve is critical as well as deck height. One, so they don't hit each other. And, also so you have good quench and don't kill power. If you don't trust your own capabilities, finding someone you do trust might be the best way forward. There are good competent engine builders out there. Something to consider. Those heads cost more than $5,000 (with tax & shipping), it'd be a shame to not have them reach their full potential (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif). |
sdoolin Compression Ratio Feb 7 2025, 04:42 PM
technicalninja You need AT LEAST .036 with cast and .040+ with fo... Feb 7 2025, 05:38 PM
sdoolin Measured deck height in the jug, with an .020 spac... Feb 7 2025, 06:02 PM
Superhawk996 Sounds like you are playing with fire.
Without se... Feb 7 2025, 06:21 PM
sdoolin
Sounds like you are playing with fire.
Without s... Feb 7 2025, 07:26 PM
Superhawk996
Sounds like you are playing with fire.
Without ... Feb 7 2025, 07:30 PM
technicalninja
Measured deck height in the jug, with an .020 spa... Feb 7 2025, 06:57 PM
sdoolin Yep, I don't want this help. Y'all go buil... Feb 7 2025, 07:27 PM
worn
Yep, I don't want this help. Y'all go bui... Feb 14 2025, 07:12 PM
sdoolin
Yep, I don't want this help. Y'all go bu... Feb 15 2025, 08:44 AM
sdoolin I especially like the turd bit. Feb 7 2025, 07:29 PM
sdoolin Superhawk thank you for your reasonable response. ... Feb 7 2025, 07:33 PM
Superhawk996
Superhawk thank you for your reasonable response.... Feb 7 2025, 07:44 PM
Jack Standz
Rebuilding(ish) my 2056. On my first build I was ... Feb 8 2025, 03:05 AM
sdoolin
Rebuilding(ish) my 2056. On my first build I was... Feb 8 2025, 07:35 AM
sdoolin Bolted things up on one side of the engine today a... Feb 8 2025, 12:37 PM
Superhawk996 0.100” clearance to the exhaust valve is startin... Feb 8 2025, 01:43 PM
sdoolin Thank you both for the thoughtful replies. My orig... Feb 8 2025, 04:32 PM
Superhawk996 0.140” - 0.150” clearance to exhaust valves is... Feb 8 2025, 10:28 PM
sdoolin Measured valve lift a bunch of times today. Worst ... Feb 9 2025, 05:03 PM
sdoolin I'll likely button this engine up this weekend... Feb 14 2025, 02:27 PM
Jack Standz Modified #2.
Bolt transmission to engine. Remove... Feb 14 2025, 04:41 PM
sdoolin
Modified #2.
Bolt transmission to engine. Remov... Feb 15 2025, 08:38 AM
930cabman Have you checked crankshaft end play? Feb 14 2025, 04:52 PM
sdoolin
Have you checked crankshaft end play?
So I re-c... Feb 16 2025, 04:08 PM
Al Meredith Years ago when Len Hoffman was rebuilding heads he... Feb 15 2025, 05:02 PM
worn
Years ago when Len Hoffman was rebuilding heads h... Feb 15 2025, 08:49 PM
Superhawk996 No discernible crank end play is a no-go.
Redo ... Feb 16 2025, 04:30 PM
sdoolin
No discernible crank end play is a no-go.
Redo... Feb 17 2025, 08:09 AM
stownsen914 Separate from the crank end play, if you are askin... Feb 17 2025, 08:15 AM
sdoolin
Separate from the crank end play, if you are aski... Feb 17 2025, 01:16 PM
sdoolin I have measured all of the shims I have on hand (6... Feb 18 2025, 05:25 PM
sdoolin So, I re-measured crank end play. Installed flywhe... Feb 22 2025, 01:05 PM
Superhawk996
Am I looking for .004" thrust with all thr... Feb 22 2025, 01:16 PM
sdoolin Thank you Superhawk. Installed third shim, remeasu... Feb 22 2025, 02:04 PM
Superhawk996
Thank you Superhawk. Installed third shim, remeas... Feb 22 2025, 07:09 PM
Jack Standz Add a cable from the negative side of the battery ... Feb 22 2025, 02:24 PM
Superhawk996 I’m going to ask a question that I’ve assumed ... Feb 22 2025, 07:17 PM
sdoolin
I’m going to ask a question that I’ve assumed... Feb 23 2025, 09:20 AM
Jack Standz It's a good idea to fill the oil filter with o... Feb 23 2025, 02:51 PM
sdoolin I have confused myself. It happens.
Having re-in... Feb 27 2025, 10:37 AM
Superhawk996 Follow the Haynes or factory manual to instill the... Feb 27 2025, 12:15 PM
sdoolin
Follow the Haynes or factory manual to instill th... Feb 27 2025, 04:02 PM
sdoolin Engine went in on Friday. Easy peasy. After I pour... Mar 2 2025, 05:23 PM
sdoolin Could this be a faulty oil pressure sending switch... Mar 3 2025, 10:30 AM
VaccaRabite
Could this be a faulty oil pressure sending switc... Mar 3 2025, 11:35 AM
Superhawk996 If it were me I would not be starting the engine j... Mar 3 2025, 12:53 PM
sdoolin Installed my brand new oil pressure test gauge (Ha... Mar 3 2025, 04:20 PM
VaccaRabite Your pressure is high because the oil is cold and ... Mar 4 2025, 06:20 AM
rfinegan Woohoo
glad you get the pressure...sounds like the... Mar 4 2025, 09:03 AM
sdoolin Yep, cold oil and running (expensive) Brad Penn 20... Mar 4 2025, 09:10 AM
sdoolin She's alive, and running well(ish). Drove abou... Mar 11 2025, 10:55 AM
930cabman
She's alive, and running well(ish). Drove abo... Mar 11 2025, 12:17 PM
friethmiller @sdoolin ,
Congrats! Glad the build was succ... Mar 11 2025, 11:54 AM
sdoolin Moving on to some other fiddly projects. Oil press... Mar 11 2025, 02:56 PM![]() ![]() |
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