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> 96 mm cylinder question, Difference between 1.7- 2.0?
Jgilliam914
post Feb 18 2025, 09:13 AM
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I was digging through a storage tote and found a set of NPR 96mm pistons and cylinders.
Is there a difference between one that fits a 1.7 vs a 2.0?
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post Feb 19 2025, 03:04 PM
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2.0 rod has a smaller crank end diameter due to 2.0 crank being a 66mm crank with reduced journal to create the extra offset (stroke). Not sure I properly explained this… (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Edit: said differently… the 66mm crank has 55mm journal whereas the 71mm crank (2.0) has 50mm journal. The 5mm is machined offset on the 66mm crank to create the 71mm stroke. Therefore rods are different between 66 and 71, as mentioned in previous posts.

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post Feb 19 2025, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(Montreal914 @ Feb 19 2025, 03:04 PM) *

2.0 rod has a smaller crank end diameter due to 2.0 crank being a 66mm crank with reduced journal to create the extra offset (stroke). Not sure I properly explained this… (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Edit: said differently… the 66mm crank has 55mm journal whereas the 71mm crank (2.0) has 50mm journal. The 5mm is machined offset on the 66mm crank to create the 71mm stroke. Therefore rods are different between 66 and 71, as mentioned in previous posts.


Yes, but at Top Dead Center is the distance from the crank centerline to the piston top the same on a 1.7/1/8 and a 2.0? I would suspect it is, as they didn't change the case sides to account for the longer stroke. The smaller journal on the 2.0 would account for the difference in rod length at TDC. All the additional displacement comes from the additional distance at BDC.

A 2.0 smaller offset rod journal may not necessarily have the same distance from the case side to the highest point on the rod journal. The differences in the rods would account for that.

Do I make sense??

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Jgilliam914   96 mm cylinder question   Feb 18 2025, 09:13 AM
brant   Yes. Wrist pin height as you have to use the rods...   Feb 18 2025, 09:32 AM
ClayPerrine   Yes. Wrist pin height as you have to use the rod...   Feb 19 2025, 06:29 AM
bdstone914   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sh...   Feb 19 2025, 07:09 AM
ClayPerrine   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Feb 19 2025, 08:08 AM
brant   well now I'm confused too.... the stroke on a...   Feb 19 2025, 10:24 AM
Artfrombama   Are the rods between 1.7, 1.8, 2.0 different lengt...   Feb 19 2025, 11:06 AM
brant   Are the rods between 1.7, 1.8, 2.0 different leng...   Feb 19 2025, 02:20 PM
Montreal914   2.0 rod has a smaller crank end diameter due to 2....   Feb 19 2025, 03:04 PM
ClayPerrine   2.0 rod has a smaller crank end diameter due to 2...   Feb 19 2025, 03:46 PM
davep   Said differently, the rods differ due to the size ...   Feb 19 2025, 04:00 PM
914sgofast2   The 1.7 liter and 1.8 liter rods are the same leng...   Feb 19 2025, 04:25 PM
Front yard mechanic   Nice can you build one for me   Feb 19 2025, 06:50 PM
Dave_Darling   If you measure the rods end to end, they are the s...   Feb 19 2025, 07:21 PM
zig-n-zag   I measured the wrist pin to the piston top for a 9...   Feb 19 2025, 08:08 PM
914werke   I measured the [u]wrist pin to the piston top for...   Sep 15 2025, 12:53 PM
914werke   Note: the 96mm barrels (P&C kits?) that will...   Sep 15 2025, 01:13 PM
cgnj   NPR slipper pistons were a thing in 80's and 9...   Sep 15 2025, 01:31 PM
Dave_Darling   There were kits sold for 1.7s that did not require...   Sep 15 2025, 02:49 PM


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