vacuum hose routing question Options

[L-Jet914]

I was installing my new ignition and FI harnesses today and I decided to look back at the vacuum hose routing diagram on Jeff Bowlsby's website. I knew my vacuum hose routing had been modified by whatever technician worked on my father's 74 914 1.8 years ago. I noticed that they teed the vacuum retard side of the vacuum advance into ported vacuum off of the intake plenum. According to the vacuum routing hose diagram, it's supposed to be connected to the rear port of the throttle body (which only gets vacuum after the throttle plate moves off idle). Would there be any reason the technician did this? I will end up rerouting the vacuum hose to the proper location. I'm just curious as to why it was modified for whatever reason. So would my 74 1.8 be considered a early or late 1.8? According to the late diagram and the throttle body that is in the car, the hose should route to the front port instead of the rear port.
The part number on the throttle body in the car 022133067C which fits either a Super Beetle 75-79, 76-83 Bus, or 83-84 Vanagon (two port t-body). According to the PET on AA's website shows two different throttle bodies 022133062L or 022133062S for California spec 1.8L 914s. The Porsche PET does not list a throttle body part number for the 1.8, only the 1.7 and 2.0s. Curious as to why someone would put the wrong part number throttle body on my 914, though it does have the 3 pin throttle position sensor. Port setup would be indicative of late 74 because the required port (front of throttle body pointing toward front of vehicle) is behind the throttle plate.

[L-Jet914]

Sorry for opening up a can of worms haha. When I ran the part number on the throttle body that is in the car, it fit the vehicles listed earlier. The retard side of the vac can is connected to a second vacuum T fitted in between the line that is meant for the FPR and decel valve. The retard side of the t-body was capped off lord known when. Vac advance was already connected to the port facing the rear of the vehicle when I initially started replacing vacuum lines years ago to fix vacuum leaks in the system. According to your vacuum hose routing diagrams Michael, there should be only 1 T-fitting off of the intake plenum which connects the FPR and decel valve which I will be restoring to factory configuration. I will be reconnecting the retard side of the can to the port facing the front of the vehicle once I receive my new vacuum hose that I have ordered. Once all that is done, the vacuum hoses will be routed correctly to EC-B configuration with no additions.

[emerygt350]

Sorry for opening up a can of worms haha. When I ran the part number on the throttle body that is in the car, it fit the vehicles listed earlier. The retard side of the vac can is connected to a second vacuum T fitted in between the line that is meant for the FPR and decel valve. The retard side of the t-body was capped off lord known when. Vac advance was already connected to the port facing the rear of the vehicle when I initially started replacing vacuum lines years ago to fix vacuum leaks in the system. According to your vacuum hose routing diagrams Michael, there should be only 1 T-fitting off of the intake plenum which connects the FPR and decel valve which I will be restoring to factory configuration. I will be reconnecting the retard side of the can to the port facing the front of the vehicle once I receive my new vacuum hose that I have ordered. Once all that is done, the vacuum hoses will be routed correctly to EC-B configuration with no additions.

Make sure you double check that port is doing what it is supposed to. Vacuum at idle and not when you rev the motor. What bothers me about the loss of advance is originally they were supposed to 'fight' each other inside the vac can, but when you remove the advance that can't happen. Obviously, the engineers didn't think that was a problem, but I still wonder about it.

[wonkipop]

Sorry for opening up a can of worms haha. When I ran the part number on the throttle body that is in the car, it fit the vehicles listed earlier. The retard side of the vac can is connected to a second vacuum T fitted in between the line that is meant for the FPR and decel valve. The retard side of the t-body was capped off lord known when. Vac advance was already connected to the port facing the rear of the vehicle when I initially started replacing vacuum lines years ago to fix vacuum leaks in the system. According to your vacuum hose routing diagrams Michael, there should be only 1 T-fitting off of the intake plenum which connects the FPR and decel valve which I will be restoring to factory configuration. I will be reconnecting the retard side of the can to the port facing the front of the vehicle once I receive my new vacuum hose that I have ordered. Once all that is done, the vacuum hoses will be routed correctly to EC-B configuration with no additions.

Make sure you double check that port is doing what it is supposed to. Vacuum at idle and not when you rev the motor. What bothers me about the loss of advance is originally they were supposed to 'fight' each other inside the vac can, but when you remove the advance that can't happen. Obviously, the engineers didn't think that was a problem, but I still wonder about it.

you are correct to wonder (worry about it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) ).
it was pretty blunt what the VW (or was that porsche - no it was VW) engineers did to the california cars in 74. (and then the 49 state cars in 75).

the EC-B cars are the best of the set ups. and even they are not ideal but you can tolerate an induced retard at idle so long as you dont spend too long stuck in a traffic jam. the 75 californian cars used the EGR to kind of simulate what the advance at cruise speed did in the 74 49 state cars.
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hows the mustang going emery.
i am currently having to attend to a ventilation ducting water leak due to rust in the scuttle (cowl) of the falcon ute. inbuilt flaw in the design. but hell ----- its worth it. i just love driving the falcon ute in traffic, its so R E L A X E D. elbow out the window. auto trans. not a care in the world. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)