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Literati914
post Feb 27 2025, 06:59 PM
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1.7 that was supposedly rebuilt just before I purchased the project approx 7 year ago. Never started before. D-jet. Electronic unit replacing the orig. points. Engine currently installed in the engine bay. I primed the oil system the other day and now the idiot light will go out after a couple seconds of cranking.

About the 3rd time or so of trying to start the engine.. it seemed to have lit, it only lasted about 2 seconds (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) but it felt good, like it wouldn’t take long. Unfortunately it’s not done much but turn over strong since then. Sometimes it’ll do a little shuffle like it’s gonna start, but no.

I checked the plugs and they have spark, they seemed slightly damp at the electrodes, I also pulled the little small extra bolt on the fuel rail at the driver’s side to see if fuel was making it to the injectors and yes it is apparently.

This 1.7 has a fan with 2 markings… a “0” and an “|” …. Haynes says it’s supposed to have 3 markings but mine does not. If I insert a screwdriver into #1 cylinder and manually bring the fan around via a wrench on the alternator bolt (pulling it towards me from the driver’s side).. I come to the “|” first, before the piston is completely at the top. So I’m speculating that “|” is 5degrees btdc . And this is the mark I’m using to set my distributor. Does that sound right?


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post Mar 6 2025, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Mar 6 2025, 08:13 PM) *

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I bet it's plumbed backwards

And what ECU is in it?


Can't be plumbed backwards because of the way it mounts to the stand/tin. The ECU is the original one for this 1.7L , I can get the numbers off it tomorrow.

One thing that I thought about but haven't tried yet on the new FPR, is to back the pressure screw way off and see if I get fuel past it... I did however do that on the original FPR and got nothing. I guess I'll try that after looking at the trigger points.
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Literati914   Another help me get this engine started! Thread   Feb 27 2025, 06:59 PM
emerygt350   I think it looks ballpark, but with that new elect...   Feb 27 2025, 07:12 PM
Dave_Darling   Plug wires in the right places? It's easy to ...   Feb 27 2025, 09:14 PM
Literati914   Yes, I checked spark and do have it at the plugs.....   Feb 27 2025, 09:49 PM
emerygt350   Yes, I checked spark and do have it at the plugs....   Feb 28 2025, 08:55 AM
Literati914   This 1.7 is original engine for my '72 (oil ba...   Feb 28 2025, 09:32 AM
Spoke   Does it start with starting fluid? If the contact...   Feb 28 2025, 10:44 AM
930cabman   Are both valves closed (on the firing stroke). Pis...   Feb 28 2025, 10:50 AM
emerygt350   Are both valves closed (on the firing stroke). Pi...   Feb 28 2025, 11:35 AM
Literati914   Does it start with starting fluid? If the contac...   Feb 28 2025, 04:26 PM
Spoke   Doesn't the fact that I'm getting spark i...   Mar 1 2025, 10:19 AM
emerygt350   There are two sets of points. There is the set yo...   Feb 28 2025, 05:35 PM
Literati914   ..and now that I look at it... where is your vacu...   Feb 28 2025, 06:06 PM
emerygt350   ..and now that I look at it... where is your vac...   Feb 28 2025, 08:19 PM
technicalninja   To check injector pulse I normally use a "noi...   Feb 28 2025, 07:25 PM
Literati914   .. [i][b]Check the trigger points in the distribu...   Mar 1 2025, 11:54 AM
emerygt350   You have to pull it to get at them. Best to check...   Mar 1 2025, 01:30 PM
Literati914   New Development: Before starting to check the in...   Mar 1 2025, 03:09 PM
emerygt350   I wonder if someone adjusted it poorly? There is ...   Mar 1 2025, 07:05 PM
Literati914   I wonder if someone adjusted it poorly? There is...   Mar 1 2025, 07:55 PM
emerygt350   Hmmm.. any old regulator that you can set to the ...   Mar 1 2025, 08:01 PM
Literati914   Update on my ‘no fuel past the FPR’ issue: I b...   Mar 6 2025, 05:59 PM
Superhawk996   Update on my ‘no fuel past the FPR’ issue: I ...   Mar 6 2025, 07:51 PM
emerygt350   Update on my ‘no fuel past the FPR’ issue: I...   Mar 6 2025, 08:13 PM
Spoke   still no fuel getting past the regulator. The r...   Mar 7 2025, 07:35 AM
Literati914   The wires to that plug were all feeling a bit weak...   Mar 6 2025, 06:05 PM
Literati914   I pulled the trigger points but see nothing that l...   Mar 6 2025, 06:57 PM
Literati914   Another view   Mar 6 2025, 06:58 PM
emerygt350   Did you check continuity on the points?   Mar 6 2025, 07:24 PM
Literati914   [quote name='Literati914' post='3195090' date='Ma...   Mar 6 2025, 09:31 PM
Literati914   .. I bet it's plumbed backwards And what ECU...   Mar 6 2025, 09:54 PM
Dave_Darling   Can't be plumbed backwards because of the way...   Mar 6 2025, 11:29 PM
VaccaRabite   .. I bet it's plumbed backwards And what EC...   Mar 7 2025, 10:49 AM
ctc911ctc   Me too - I had my '73 apart in 1986 for some r...   Mar 7 2025, 01:39 PM
Literati914   Can't be plumbed backwards because of the wa...   Mar 7 2025, 12:04 AM
Literati914   still no fuel getting past the regulator. The ...   Mar 7 2025, 08:29 AM
emerygt350   People manage to route it backwards where the pump...   Mar 7 2025, 09:28 AM
Literati914   You guys certainly have me second guessing my fuel...   Mar 7 2025, 11:52 AM
Literati914   I’m gonna check at the pump soon, will report ba...   Mar 7 2025, 02:54 PM
Literati914   Ok, nobody has an educated guess on this - that ac...   Mar 7 2025, 11:44 PM
emerygt350   I don't think the line size either way is goin...   Mar 8 2025, 11:52 AM
Superhawk996   :agree: Stay focused and don’t get distracted ...   Mar 8 2025, 12:11 PM
Literati914   I don't think the line size either way is goi...   Mar 8 2025, 03:48 PM
Superhawk996   I don't think the line size either way is go...   Mar 8 2025, 04:09 PM
Literati914   They dropped line sizes because it’s a lot more...   Mar 8 2025, 06:01 PM
Superhawk996   Any fuel pressure test gauge will work but you nee...   Mar 8 2025, 08:17 PM
Literati914   So much good info, I appreciate it. Maybe I have...   Mar 9 2025, 12:48 AM
Superhawk996   Just going to post this so we have common points o...   Mar 9 2025, 01:32 AM
emerygt350   The ports for the pressure tester are on the steel...   Mar 9 2025, 06:18 AM
Literati914   Just going to post this so we have common points ...   Mar 9 2025, 09:39 AM
Literati914   The ports for the pressure tester are on the stee...   Mar 9 2025, 09:40 AM
Superhawk996   Remove the screw - slip fuel hose tube over the s...   Mar 9 2025, 10:19 AM
Literati914   Remove the screw - slip fuel hose tube over the ...   Mar 9 2025, 10:30 AM
Superhawk996   Cold start valve only comes into play around freez...   Mar 9 2025, 11:43 AM
Literati914   Just going to post this so we have common points ...   Mar 18 2025, 03:07 PM
930cabman   Did this engine get started?   Mar 18 2025, 03:41 PM
Literati914   No, I've just come back to it after ordering a...   Mar 18 2025, 06:16 PM
Superhawk996   So - I'm thinking the CSV could be the only...   Mar 19 2025, 08:36 AM
emerygt350   This really sounds like the routing is not correct...   Mar 19 2025, 08:22 AM
Superhawk996   This really sounds like the routing is not correc...   Mar 19 2025, 08:39 AM
emerygt350   [quote name='emerygt350' post='3196987' date='Mar...   Mar 19 2025, 10:08 AM
Literati914   Quick update - after testing pressure at the pump ...   Mar 20 2025, 06:26 PM
emerygt350   Quick update - after testing pressure at the pump...   Mar 21 2025, 07:27 AM
Superhawk996   Holy cow, varnish, trash? Wow, that is a new on...   Mar 21 2025, 08:38 AM
Literati914   [Holy cow, varnish, trash? ..some of that tr...   Mar 21 2025, 09:23 AM
emerygt350   [Holy cow, varnish, trash? ..some of that t...   Mar 21 2025, 10:00 AM
Literati914   I installed my replacement engine side hard lines ...   Mar 23 2025, 03:58 PM
emerygt350   Awesome.   Mar 23 2025, 04:06 PM
Literati914   Now that my fuel pressure issue 'seems' li...   Mar 24 2025, 03:44 PM
emerygt350   Just upload it to YouTube and share the link. Sup...   Mar 24 2025, 04:03 PM
emerygt350   Low idle could be a rich mix, but first make sure ...   Mar 24 2025, 04:04 PM
Literati914   Here’s a video of .. let’s call it first start...   Mar 24 2025, 06:59 PM
Literati914   Revving it to 28-2900rpm approx: https://youtube...   Mar 24 2025, 07:01 PM
Literati914   My Tach while it’s idling:   Mar 24 2025, 07:08 PM
Superhawk996   :trophy:   Mar 24 2025, 07:14 PM
Literati914   Hey thanks to you guys!! @Superhawk996 a...   Mar 24 2025, 09:40 PM
Spoke   Engine sounds good. Congratulations on solving the...   Mar 24 2025, 11:29 PM
emerygt350   Yes, it sounds just like it should. For afr you n...   Mar 25 2025, 05:19 AM
emerygt350   dupe   Mar 25 2025, 05:21 AM
emerygt350   Personally, just make sure you have good oil in th...   Mar 25 2025, 05:21 AM
crash914   What is the correct fuel pressure for a 1.7? I th...   Mar 25 2025, 05:33 AM
Literati914   What is the correct fuel pressure for a 1.7? I t...   Mar 25 2025, 09:36 AM
emerygt350   My car doesn't hold pressure much more than 30...   Mar 25 2025, 10:43 AM
Literati914   Adventures in timing: Got my strobe light and ve...   Mar 25 2025, 03:56 PM
emerygt350   I would put it at 8 static. That is about where y...   Mar 25 2025, 04:12 PM
emerygt350   Was that 10 at idle? With your timing so retarded...   Mar 25 2025, 04:15 PM
Literati914   I would put it at .. You have a 1.7 so maybe bes...   Mar 25 2025, 08:05 PM
emerygt350   I have no idea what they were smoking that day. A...   Mar 26 2025, 05:16 AM


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