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[Literati914]

1.7 that was supposedly rebuilt just before I purchased the project approx 7 year ago. Never started before. D-jet. Electronic unit replacing the orig. points. Engine currently installed in the engine bay. I primed the oil system the other day and now the idiot light will go out after a couple seconds of cranking.

About the 3rd time or so of trying to start the engine.. it seemed to have lit, it only lasted about 2 seconds (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) but it felt good, like it wouldn’t take long. Unfortunately it’s not done much but turn over strong since then. Sometimes it’ll do a little shuffle like it’s gonna start, but no.

I checked the plugs and they have spark, they seemed slightly damp at the electrodes, I also pulled the little small extra bolt on the fuel rail at the driver’s side to see if fuel was making it to the injectors and yes it is apparently.

This 1.7 has a fan with 2 markings… a “0” and an “|” …. Haynes says it’s supposed to have 3 markings but mine does not. If I insert a screwdriver into #1 cylinder and manually bring the fan around via a wrench on the alternator bolt (pulling it towards me from the driver’s side).. I come to the “|” first, before the piston is completely at the top. So I’m speculating that “|” is 5degrees btdc . And this is the mark I’m using to set my distributor. Does that sound right?

[Literati914]

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I bet it's plumbed backwards

And what ECU is in it?

Can't be plumbed backwards because of the way it mounts to the stand/tin. The ECU is the original one for this 1.7L , I can get the numbers off it tomorrow.

One thing that I thought about but haven't tried yet on the new FPR, is to back the pressure screw way off and see if I get fuel past it... I did however do that on the original FPR and got nothing. I guess I'll try that after looking at the trigger points.

[VaccaRabite]

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I bet it's plumbed backwards

And what ECU is in it?

Can't be plumbed backwards because of the way it mounts to the stand/tin. The ECU is

Oh yes it can. I know it. I've DONE it.

I chased a no start issue on my car for months that ended up being that I had the supply line and the return lines swapped at the fuel tank after I had epoxy coated my tank.

Once I swapped the lines at the FPR - boom! Instant start up!

Did I feel dumb? Yes. Did I do a happy dance anyway? Also yes.

Almost 10 years and another whole engine later, the lines are still "wrong" at the tank. I had done something like putting the sock on the wrong nipple inside the tank when I rebuilt the tank. Since its coated inside, I don't want to unbolt any fittings on the tank and risk fouling the epoxy. So that's just the way it is now.

Swap your fuel lines at the pressure regulator. See if it starts. And take a moment to put a little gage on the feed side fuel hose after your pressure regulator. Its a dumb regulator. Just a bolt, a plate, and a spring. Actually knowing your pressure is very helpful.

Zach

[ctc911ctc]

Me too - I had my '73 apart in 1986 for some reason while I lived in Redondo Beach, when it was back together, the car ran but not well, I was young and brought it to a dealer (Vasack) with all types of theories, when I got it back the bill was tiny. Stated: Fuel Lines on pump in wrong positions.

Very Humbling

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I bet it's plumbed backwards

And what ECU is in it?

Can't be plumbed backwards because of the way it mounts to the stand/tin. The ECU is

Oh yes it can. I know it. I've DONE it.

I chased a no start issue on my car for months that ended up being that I had the supply line and the return lines swapped at the fuel tank after I had epoxy coated my tank.

Once I swapped the lines at the FPR - boom! Instant start up!

Did I feel dumb? Yes. Did I do a happy dance anyway? Also yes.

Almost 10 years and another whole engine later, the lines are still "wrong" at the tank. I had done something like putting the sock on the wrong nipple inside the tank when I rebuilt the tank. Since its coated inside, I don't want to unbolt any fittings on the tank and risk fouling the epoxy. So that's just the way it is now.

Swap your fuel lines at the pressure regulator. See if it starts. And take a moment to put a little gage on the feed side fuel hose after your pressure regulator. Its a dumb regulator. Just a bolt, a plate, and a spring. Actually knowing your pressure is very helpful.

Zach