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| Literati914 |
 Feb 27 2025, 06:59 PM
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1.7 that was supposedly rebuilt just before I purchased the project approx 7 year ago. Never started before. D-jet. Electronic unit replacing the orig. points. Engine currently installed in the engine bay. I primed the oil system the other day and now the idiot light will go out after a couple seconds of cranking.
About the 3rd time or so of trying to start the engine.. it seemed to have lit, it only lasted about 2 seconds (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) but it felt good, like it wouldn’t take long. Unfortunately it’s not done much but turn over strong since then. Sometimes it’ll do a little shuffle like it’s gonna start, but no. I checked the plugs and they have spark, they seemed slightly damp at the electrodes, I also pulled the little small extra bolt on the fuel rail at the driver’s side to see if fuel was making it to the injectors and yes it is apparently. This 1.7 has a fan with 2 markings… a “0” and an “|” …. Haynes says it’s supposed to have 3 markings but mine does not. If I insert a screwdriver into #1 cylinder and manually bring the fan around via a wrench on the alternator bolt (pulling it towards me from the driver’s side).. I come to the “|” first, before the piston is completely at the top. So I’m speculating that “|” is 5degrees btdc . And this is the mark I’m using to set my distributor. Does that sound right? Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| Literati914 |
Mar 7 2025, 11:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,934 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Ok, nobody has an educated guess on this - that actually makes me feel better! Maybe it wasn't so loco after all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I will admit though that I'd like to clean up the size changes.. I feel like that could only help. I have a little plan, that would probably be better. The later cars went to both small diameter lines, so in theory that probably helps with pressure all the way to the back (they did it for a reason). I don't care to switch out the larger diameter line if I don't have to.. so let me ask this first : Would there be any problem with using the larger diameter tunnel line for the return fuel? |
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Literati914 Another help me get this engine started! Thread Feb 27 2025, 06:59 PM
emerygt350 I think it looks ballpark, but with that new elect... Feb 27 2025, 07:12 PM Dave_Darling Plug wires in the right places? It's easy to ... Feb 27 2025, 09:14 PM Literati914 Yes, I checked spark and do have it at the plugs..... Feb 27 2025, 09:49 PM
emerygt350
Yes, I checked spark and do have it at the plugs.... Feb 28 2025, 08:55 AM Literati914 This 1.7 is original engine for my '72 (oil ba... Feb 28 2025, 09:32 AM Spoke Does it start with starting fluid?
If the contact... Feb 28 2025, 10:44 AM 930cabman Are both valves closed (on the firing stroke). Pis... Feb 28 2025, 10:50 AM emerygt350
Are both valves closed (on the firing stroke). Pi... Feb 28 2025, 11:35 AM Literati914
Does it start with starting fluid?
If the contac... Feb 28 2025, 04:26 PM Spoke
Doesn't the fact that I'm getting spark i... Mar 1 2025, 10:19 AM emerygt350 There are two sets of points. There is the set yo... Feb 28 2025, 05:35 PM Literati914
..and now that I look at it... where is your vacu... Feb 28 2025, 06:06 PM emerygt350
..and now that I look at it... where is your vac... Feb 28 2025, 08:19 PM technicalninja To check injector pulse I normally use a "noi... Feb 28 2025, 07:25 PM Literati914
.. [i][b]Check the trigger points in the distribu... Mar 1 2025, 11:54 AM emerygt350 You have to pull it to get at them. Best to check... Mar 1 2025, 01:30 PM Literati914 New Development:
Before starting to check the in... Mar 1 2025, 03:09 PM emerygt350 I wonder if someone adjusted it poorly? There is ... Mar 1 2025, 07:05 PM Literati914
I wonder if someone adjusted it poorly? There is... Mar 1 2025, 07:55 PM emerygt350 Hmmm.. any old regulator that you can set to the ... Mar 1 2025, 08:01 PM Literati914 Update on my ‘no fuel past the FPR’ issue:
I b... Mar 6 2025, 05:59 PM Superhawk996
Update on my ‘no fuel past the FPR’ issue:
I ... Mar 6 2025, 07:51 PM emerygt350
Update on my ‘no fuel past the FPR’ issue:
I... Mar 6 2025, 08:13 PM Spoke
still no fuel getting past the regulator.
The r... Mar 7 2025, 07:35 AM Literati914 The wires to that plug were all feeling a bit weak... Mar 6 2025, 06:05 PM Literati914 I pulled the trigger points but see nothing that l... Mar 6 2025, 06:57 PM Literati914 Another view Mar 6 2025, 06:58 PM emerygt350 Did you check continuity on the points? Mar 6 2025, 07:24 PM Literati914
[quote name='Literati914' post='3195090' date='Ma... Mar 6 2025, 09:31 PM Literati914
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I bet it's plumbed backwards
And what ECU... Mar 6 2025, 09:54 PM Dave_Darling
Can't be plumbed backwards because of the way... Mar 6 2025, 11:29 PM VaccaRabite
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I bet it's plumbed backwards
And what EC... Mar 7 2025, 10:49 AM ctc911ctc Me too - I had my '73 apart in 1986 for some r... Mar 7 2025, 01:39 PM Literati914
Can't be plumbed backwards because of the wa... Mar 7 2025, 12:04 AM Literati914
still no fuel getting past the regulator.
The ... Mar 7 2025, 08:29 AM emerygt350 People manage to route it backwards where the pump... Mar 7 2025, 09:28 AM Literati914 You guys certainly have me second guessing my fuel... Mar 7 2025, 11:52 AM Literati914 I’m gonna check at the pump soon, will report ba... Mar 7 2025, 02:54 PM emerygt350 I don't think the line size either way is goin... Mar 8 2025, 11:52 AM Superhawk996 :agree:
Stay focused and don’t get distracted ... Mar 8 2025, 12:11 PM Literati914
I don't think the line size either way is goi... Mar 8 2025, 03:48 PM Superhawk996
I don't think the line size either way is go... Mar 8 2025, 04:09 PM Literati914
They dropped line sizes because it’s a lot more... Mar 8 2025, 06:01 PM Superhawk996 Any fuel pressure test gauge will work but you nee... Mar 8 2025, 08:17 PM Literati914 So much good info, I appreciate it.
Maybe I have... Mar 9 2025, 12:48 AM Superhawk996 Just going to post this so we have common points o... Mar 9 2025, 01:32 AM emerygt350 The ports for the pressure tester are on the steel... Mar 9 2025, 06:18 AM Literati914
Just going to post this so we have common points ... Mar 9 2025, 09:39 AM Literati914
The ports for the pressure tester are on the stee... Mar 9 2025, 09:40 AM Superhawk996 Remove the screw - slip fuel hose tube over the s... Mar 9 2025, 10:19 AM Literati914
Remove the screw - slip fuel hose tube over the ... Mar 9 2025, 10:30 AM Superhawk996 Cold start valve only comes into play around freez... Mar 9 2025, 11:43 AM Literati914
Just going to post this so we have common points ... Mar 18 2025, 03:07 PM 930cabman Did this engine get started? Mar 18 2025, 03:41 PM Literati914 No, I've just come back to it after ordering a... Mar 18 2025, 06:16 PM Superhawk996
So - I'm thinking the CSV could be the only... Mar 19 2025, 08:36 AM emerygt350 This really sounds like the routing is not correct... Mar 19 2025, 08:22 AM Superhawk996
This really sounds like the routing is not correc... Mar 19 2025, 08:39 AM emerygt350
[quote name='emerygt350' post='3196987' date='Mar... Mar 19 2025, 10:08 AM Literati914 Quick update - after testing pressure at the pump ... Mar 20 2025, 06:26 PM emerygt350
Quick update - after testing pressure at the pump... Mar 21 2025, 07:27 AM Superhawk996
Holy cow, varnish, trash? Wow, that is a new on... Mar 21 2025, 08:38 AM Literati914
[Holy cow, varnish, trash?
..some of that tr... Mar 21 2025, 09:23 AM emerygt350
[Holy cow, varnish, trash?
..some of that t... Mar 21 2025, 10:00 AM Literati914 I installed my replacement engine side hard lines ... Mar 23 2025, 03:58 PM emerygt350 Awesome. Mar 23 2025, 04:06 PM Literati914 Now that my fuel pressure issue 'seems' li... Mar 24 2025, 03:44 PM emerygt350 Just upload it to YouTube and share the link. Sup... Mar 24 2025, 04:03 PM emerygt350 Low idle could be a rich mix, but first make sure ... Mar 24 2025, 04:04 PM Literati914 Here’s a video of .. let’s call it first start... Mar 24 2025, 06:59 PM Literati914 Revving it to 28-2900rpm approx:
https://youtube... Mar 24 2025, 07:01 PM Literati914 My Tach while it’s idling: Mar 24 2025, 07:08 PM Superhawk996 :trophy: Mar 24 2025, 07:14 PM Literati914 Hey thanks to you guys!! @Superhawk996 a... Mar 24 2025, 09:40 PM Spoke Engine sounds good. Congratulations on solving the... Mar 24 2025, 11:29 PM emerygt350 Yes, it sounds just like it should. For afr you n... Mar 25 2025, 05:19 AM emerygt350 dupe Mar 25 2025, 05:21 AM emerygt350 Personally, just make sure you have good oil in th... Mar 25 2025, 05:21 AM crash914 What is the correct fuel pressure for a 1.7? I th... Mar 25 2025, 05:33 AM Literati914
What is the correct fuel pressure for a 1.7? I t... Mar 25 2025, 09:36 AM emerygt350 My car doesn't hold pressure much more than 30... Mar 25 2025, 10:43 AM Literati914 Adventures in timing:
Got my strobe light and ve... Mar 25 2025, 03:56 PM emerygt350 I would put it at 8 static. That is about where y... Mar 25 2025, 04:12 PM emerygt350 Was that 10 at idle? With your timing so retarded... Mar 25 2025, 04:15 PM Literati914
I would put it at .. You have a 1.7 so maybe bes... Mar 25 2025, 08:05 PM emerygt350 I have no idea what they were smoking that day. A... Mar 26 2025, 05:16 AM |
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