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> 2500 RPM stumble partial throttle 2.0 -4
SVG223
post Mar 13 2025, 08:35 PM
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2400-2600 rpm stumble with partial throttle, stumble goes away under full throttle. Runs smooth at all other RPMs. Pulled the plugs, a little lean maybe?



Edit 3-17-25 I found a possible cause; worn distributor bushings causing a variation in the points gap.
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post Mar 14 2025, 08:05 AM
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None at of those plugs are lean
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post Mar 14 2025, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 14 2025, 08:05 AM) *

None at of those plugs are lean

Maybe I don't understand your post but are you saying those plugs are not lean? They look dangerously lean. Baked on white powder with little orbs of metal isn't something I would want on my plugs.
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post Mar 14 2025, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 14 2025, 08:05 AM) *

None at of those plugs are lean

Maybe I don't understand your post but are you saying those plugs are not lean? They look dangerously lean. Baked on white powder with little orbs of metal isn't something I would want on my plugs.

Those plugs are no where near lean. Brown / light grey would is completely normal plug color.

The little orbs and the flaking you see are called glazing

The glazing is a result of the incomplete combustion is occurring when the engine is stumbling and missing during the part throttle acceleration acceleration problem he’s having. The glazing comes from the plug heat cycling rapidly as combustion happens and then doesn’t happen. The deposits occur when the combustion isn’t complete (ie missing) and then that deposit gets baked during the time when combustion is occurring.

Solve that part throttle stumble and the glazing goes away
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 14 2025, 11:46 AM) *

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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 14 2025, 08:05 AM) *

None at of those plugs are lean

Maybe I don't understand your post but are you saying those plugs are not lean? They look dangerously lean. Baked on white powder with little orbs of metal isn't something I would want on my plugs.

Those plugs are no where near lean. Brown / light grey would is completely normal plug color.

The little orbs and the flaking you see are called glazing

The glazing is a result of the incomplete combustion is occurring when the engine is stumbling and missing during the part throttle acceleration acceleration problem he’s having. The glazing comes from the plug heat cycling rapidly as combustion happens and then doesn’t happen. The deposits occur when the combustion isn’t complete (ie missing) and then that deposit gets baked during the time when combustion is occurring.

Solve that part throttle stumble and the glazing goes away


Interesting, i am trying to find my old post when I had plugs like that and everyone yelled "lean!!!" but I can't find it (2022?). It would have been good to know that is a sign of something else.


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SVG223   2500 RPM stumble partial throttle 2.0 -4   Mar 13 2025, 08:35 PM
jim_hoyland   TPS ? Common issue….   Mar 13 2025, 08:40 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   as a stab in the dark, I agree, and check the grou...   Mar 15 2025, 11:02 AM
gonzo54   2.0 DJET? I would suspect TPS board - there are ma...   Mar 13 2025, 08:49 PM
SVG223   That sounds reasonable. I replaced the TPS board 3...   Mar 13 2025, 09:03 PM
emerygt350   That is looking very lean as well. Is this stock?...   Mar 14 2025, 06:40 AM
SVG223   That is looking very lean as well. Is this stock...   Mar 14 2025, 05:23 PM
Superhawk996   I had these plugs under a strong LED shop light ...   Mar 15 2025, 07:07 AM
SVG223   I had these plugs under a strong LED shop light...   Mar 15 2025, 01:26 PM
Superhawk996   None at of those plugs are lean   Mar 14 2025, 08:05 AM
emerygt350   None at of those plugs are lean Maybe I don...   Mar 14 2025, 10:00 AM
Superhawk996   None at of those plugs are lean Maybe I don...   Mar 14 2025, 11:46 AM
emerygt350   [quote name='emerygt350' post='3196271' date='Mar...   Mar 14 2025, 12:02 PM
windforfun   Try some electronic contact cleaner on the TPS. T...   Mar 14 2025, 11:44 AM
SVG223   Try some electronic contact cleaner on the TPS. ...   Mar 14 2025, 07:44 PM
Superhawk996   Here’s your post ? http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Mar 14 2025, 12:31 PM
emerygt350   To me that is a clean plug with your 'powder...   Mar 14 2025, 03:26 PM
emerygt350   I chased what I thought was a lean miss for months...   Mar 15 2025, 06:04 AM
SVG223   I chased what I thought was a lean miss for month...   Mar 15 2025, 02:53 PM
brant   Agree with Superhawk. All of the basics first T...   Mar 15 2025, 10:06 AM
SVG223   Agree with Superhawk. All of the basics first ...   Mar 15 2025, 01:35 PM
ctc911ctc   Strongly suggest that you buy this book, has saved...   Mar 15 2025, 11:54 AM
SVG223   Well, I tried the suggestion from @emerygt350 ab...   Mar 15 2025, 03:35 PM
emerygt350   Interesting. I would also check the coil too. Al...   Mar 15 2025, 04:04 PM
brant   Doubt it is the distributor points for fuel inject...   Mar 15 2025, 05:06 PM
emerygt350   I had another thought as well... Does your car hav...   Mar 16 2025, 05:32 AM
SVG223   I had another thought as well... Does your car ha...   Mar 16 2025, 02:03 PM
JeffBowlsby   A better price on the Tech Tips book - Direct from...   Mar 16 2025, 08:13 AM
SVG223   A better price on the Tech Tips book - Direct fro...   Mar 16 2025, 02:05 PM
emerygt350   The car will run fine without the TPS. It's o...   Mar 16 2025, 03:55 PM
SVG223   The car will run fine without the TPS. It's ...   Mar 16 2025, 04:23 PM
emerygt350   Excellent. Often that gets put on something... W...   Mar 16 2025, 06:23 PM
SVG223   I found some play in the distributor shaft. I thou...   Mar 16 2025, 09:40 PM
emerygt350   Don't forget your dwell. That can make a big ...   Mar 17 2025, 05:27 AM
SVG223   Don't forget your dwell. That can make a big...   Mar 17 2025, 02:04 PM
SVG223   Now I'm thinking about buying a dwell meter an...   Mar 17 2025, 01:51 PM
emerygt350   Bad bearings can do that. If I were you I would j...   Mar 17 2025, 02:56 PM
FlacaProductions   The petronix issue with leaving your ignition on w...   Mar 17 2025, 07:25 PM
SVG223   The petronix issue with leaving your ignition on ...   Mar 17 2025, 07:28 PM
SVG223   The vacuum retard diaphragm has a hole in it. That...   Mar 17 2025, 07:27 PM
emerygt350   Yeah, a hole there will just be a vacuum leak at i...   Mar 18 2025, 05:24 AM
SVG223   Yeah, a hole there will just be a vacuum leak at ...   Mar 18 2025, 02:47 PM
emerygt350   No, I have the non Bluetooth version and it has be...   Mar 19 2025, 08:26 AM
SVG223   I cleaned the distributor; the mechanical advance ...   Mar 19 2025, 02:53 PM
emerygt350   I would check your plugs and watch your head tempe...   Mar 19 2025, 04:45 PM
emerygt350   Oh, and did you get a dwell meter? Incorrect dwel...   Mar 19 2025, 04:58 PM
SVG223   duplicate   Mar 19 2025, 06:15 PM
SVG223   No dwell meter. I don't think this worn distri...   Mar 19 2025, 06:15 PM
ctc911ctc   No dwell meter. I don't think this worn distr...   Mar 20 2025, 03:21 PM
emerygt350   A poor spark can result in a miss. And don't ...   Mar 20 2025, 05:30 AM
emerygt350   I wouldn't ignore the dwell. Could be a re...   Mar 20 2025, 06:37 AM
ctc911ctc   My 914 mentor, Richard Towle would say that for th...   Mar 20 2025, 03:13 PM
emerygt350   duplicate post   Mar 20 2025, 06:37 AM
SVG223   duplicate post I ordered a Hot-Spark electronic ...   Mar 20 2025, 02:39 PM
brant   a worn out distributor shaft will make a newer poi...   Mar 20 2025, 03:26 PM
brant   I have a half dozen DJet distributors from differe...   Mar 20 2025, 03:28 PM
SVG223   It looks like I have about .005" of lateral p...   Mar 20 2025, 04:42 PM


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