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> 3.6 Issues - I'm really scratching my head
RiqueMar
post Apr 21 2025, 10:02 PM
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Hi There World!

Messaging the community here, as I'm thoroughly 'stuck' and I'm hoping someone has had a previous experience or perhaps point me in the right direction.

My car had been performing incredibly well. I probably put 1,600-1,800 miles on it driving back from Oregon. Yesterday, in the span of about 10-15 minutes it went from running and driving great to awful. I coasted down a long hill, and the engine starting dying and then immediately surging, like an on/off switch.

I eventually shut it down, but being only about 1-2 miles from my parents house made it back at a bit higher than normal revs. I believe a small bracket holding the Mass-airflow gave out and as a result, the air-intake lines / boots came disconnected. This made sense to me, as the engine was acting as if it might have had inconsistent air-intake / fuel mixture.

After fixing it - Over the course of the next hour, it went from bad to worse. I disconnected the battery, understanding this was a way to allow the ECU to reset, however now I cannot get the engine to 'hold' any level of RPMs.

Example, if I put my foot on the accelerator, it will rev-up-and-down about 400-600 RPMs. Likewise, I can hear and 'feel' the DME-relay 'cycling' on and off as I try to hold the accelerator / RPM level - I think this is very wrong as I think that one of it's responsibilities is the injectors. I've spent the last day to figure it out. Checked all my vacuum and air-connections as well as electrical. Tomorrow perhaps the fuel-pump. It's strange as for the last few weeks, it was incredibly reliable, 1-2 'stalls' under cold-start, but otherwise excellent.

I already missed 'having the car for my birthday' and hope to make it available for the 'Air and Water' event this weekend, so messaging other owners and the community is my last-shot before going to a shop. Any and all direction or previous experience anyone might have is greatly appreciated.

For communication purposes, I've done the following:
- Replaced the DME-relay - maybe slightly better, no change
- Made sure there's fuel - at least 3/4 tank
- Secured the Mass Air-flow sensor - no change
- Disconnected the battery, reconnected at different intervals (30-min, 60-min, overnight) - no change
- Checked all my air-lines / vacuum lines - no change
- (Earlier today) Added 1-qt of oil (why not?) - no change
- Checked the Flywheel position sensor - shook it, seems secure
- Checked the camshaft sensor - shook it, seems secure

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Justinp71
post Apr 24 2025, 10:24 AM
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I had the issue when I first fired up my EFI my fuel filtering was not the best and started plugging up some injectors. Also there was a bit of grit that came off from the new an6 fuel line threads and got to the injectors. I pulled the fuel system all apart, cleaned the injectors and then installed a Deutchwerks fuel filter. When I reassembled everything I used a drop of oil on the AN threads and if the threads did not go on right away I pulled apart the fittings and recleaned.

My build ran fine at first too until all the bits got to the injectors.
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post Apr 25 2025, 11:23 AM
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IT’S ALIIIIIIIIIIVE

Bags under my eyes. Over caffeinated. Setting up for our vendor space at “air and water” today. No sleep. But it’s alive.

Details later – thank you to the entire community for the help and input.
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RiqueMar   3.6 Issues - I'm really scratching my head   Apr 21 2025, 10:02 PM
Maltese Falcon   ...might be good to check the small belt inside th...   Apr 21 2025, 11:41 PM
Steve   As Marty said, pull the bottom distributor cap off...   Apr 22 2025, 12:07 AM
RiqueMar   ...might be good to check the small belt inside t...   Apr 22 2025, 12:25 AM
Spoke   ** Edit: System won't let me add a photo, not ...   Apr 22 2025, 01:32 PM
Cairo94507   That is weird. My first guess would be the Mass A...   Apr 22 2025, 08:29 AM
mlindner   Fuel pump up front, any chance you have a loose gr...   Apr 22 2025, 08:46 AM
Steve   Regarding the fuel pump, I bought a kit at harbor ...   Apr 22 2025, 09:31 AM
SirAndy   What year is your engine? There was a recall on t...   Apr 22 2025, 10:36 AM
SirAndy   What year is your engine? There was a recall on t...   Apr 22 2025, 10:41 AM
RiqueMar   What year is your engine? There was a recall on ...   Apr 22 2025, 11:42 AM
ClayPerrine   What year is your engine? There was a recall on...   Apr 22 2025, 01:53 PM
Chris914n6   Unplug the idle air control and see if it stabiliz...   Apr 22 2025, 02:52 PM
Justinp71   I'm not a 964/motronic expert but familiar wit...   Apr 22 2025, 06:56 PM
RiqueMar   Thanks so far everyone, keep em' comin'...   Apr 22 2025, 08:07 PM
wndsrfr   Thanks so far everyone, keep em' comin'...   Apr 23 2025, 08:14 PM
rgalla9146   Thanks so far everyone, keep em' comin'...   Apr 24 2025, 05:02 AM
RiqueMar   Thanks Guys, but skeptical in this case even thoug...   Apr 24 2025, 10:07 AM
ClayPerrine   I'm not a 964/motronic expert but familiar wi...   Apr 23 2025, 05:31 AM
Justinp71   I had the issue when I first fired up my EFI my fu...   Apr 24 2025, 10:24 AM
RiqueMar   IT’S ALIIIIIIIIIIVE Bags under my eyes. Over ca...   Apr 25 2025, 11:23 AM
sixnotfour   :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger: see the 9...   Apr 25 2025, 11:43 AM
sixnotfour   The one on display is RED.... :beer3:   Apr 25 2025, 11:48 AM
RiqueMar   Super! If I get a chance to step away from th...   Apr 25 2025, 12:57 PM
Cairo94507   Congratulations Enrique. :beer2:   Apr 25 2025, 02:37 PM
RiqueMar   Oh man, what a couple of days! I spent this la...   Apr 27 2025, 09:51 AM
Cairo94507   Man, it is always the little stuff. I love that y...   Apr 27 2025, 11:01 AM
ClayPerrine   TLDR... Your father swapped the coil wires between...   Apr 27 2025, 04:00 PM
RiqueMar   TLDR... Your father swapped the coil wires betwee...   Apr 27 2025, 11:39 PM
ClayPerrine   TLDR... Your father swapped the coil wires betwe...   Apr 28 2025, 05:23 AM


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