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| Ron914 |
Apr 28 2025, 10:52 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 468 Joined: 19-April 22 From: Huntington Beach,Ca Member No.: 26,487 Region Association: Southern California
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I needed to rebuild my MPS but Chris Foley is out of the kits due to no longer having a supplier of the BE-CU diaphragms . I was lucky enough to have a member here offer to sell me his spare parts kit from Chris (Thanks Tom). His kit did not have the instructions with it so I am wondering if anyone has a copy of those instructions?
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| Ron914 |
Apr 29 2025, 08:48 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 468 Joined: 19-April 22 From: Huntington Beach,Ca Member No.: 26,487 Region Association: Southern California
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After reading a bit of Paul Anders MPS Diagnosis I am not sure if I want to tackle this one on my own ,at least I need to read the rest of the documents but I will say this gets a bit deep when compared to Chris's instruction sheet . In the Anders documents it tells you how to test the MPS.Anders says at 10inhg acceptable leak down is < 5inhg in 1 minute so I tested mine again out of the car and made sure my connections to the Mityvac were tight and I got 6.5inhg in 1 minute so maybe all I need to do is tune it . Then again I am going to read more on this before I decide to tear the MPS open .
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| JeffBowlsby |
Apr 29 2025, 10:08 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,137 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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After reading a bit of Paul Anders MPS Diagnosis I am not sure if I want to tackle this one on my own ,at least I need to read the rest of the documents but I will say this gets a bit deep when compared to Chris's instruction sheet . In the Anders documents it tells you how to test the MPS.Anders says at 10inhg acceptable leak down is < 5inhg in 1 minute so I tested mine again out of the car and made sure my connections to the Mityvac were tight and I got 6.5inhg in 1 minute so maybe all I need to do is tune it . Then again I am going to read more on this before I decide to tear the MPS open . Not sure where that leakdown tolerance criteria originates, seems made up, which coming from Brad A, I seriously doubt he made up. D-Jet can work OK with a slight leakdown because of the way intake manifold vacuum pulses maintain a vacuum level but a leak is a leak which richens the mix and richness increases with the time a leakage increases. The EFI Associates MPS rebuild data I have requires checking leakage at 5 step values up to 18 in/Hg, with no allowed leakdown. Its also near impossible to calibrate the MPS with any degree of precision when the vacuum gauge needle is always moving. Chris' method of 'measure twice cut once' is the machinist way of attempting to replicate the original calibration without using an inductance meter or WB02 sensor. Hats off to you Chris, its a creative and efficient solution. It assumes the current calibration is correct to the factory original specs or was previously set accurately to your engines current needs. It seems like a reasonable way to get you close enough to fine tune it with the WB02, but I have not tried it. |
Ron914 CFR MPS rebuild Apr 28 2025, 10:52 PM
MDTerp RE: CFR MPS rebuild Apr 29 2025, 04:26 AM
Ron914
Thank you Michael. @[url=http://www.914world.c... Apr 29 2025, 08:27 AM
rjames The hex tool is used in conjunction with the screw... Apr 29 2025, 08:50 AM
Ron914
The hex tool is used in conjunction with the scre... Apr 29 2025, 09:31 AM
ChrisFoley The reason I recommend using those smaller taps as... Apr 29 2025, 08:54 AM
ChrisFoley That's an old tool set pictured. Currently, I ... Apr 29 2025, 08:57 AM
ChrisFoley Hi Ron,
I was just on the phone with Tom yesterday... Apr 29 2025, 09:05 AM
Ron914
Hi Ron,
I was just on the phone with Tom yesterda... Apr 29 2025, 09:34 AM
emerygt350 Those look like good improvements on an already gr... Apr 29 2025, 09:49 AM
rjames
Don't overthink it. If both sizes are in the... Apr 29 2025, 10:10 AM
ChrisFoley I've been including M4 screws & nuts for a... Apr 29 2025, 10:37 AM
MDTerp For me it was also very helpful to install a vacuu... Apr 29 2025, 01:05 PM
emerygt350
For me it was also very helpful to install a vacu... Apr 29 2025, 03:20 PM
Ron914
For me it was also very helpful to install a vac... May 1 2025, 07:35 AM
emerygt350
[quote name='emerygt350' post='3203360' date='Apr... May 1 2025, 09:34 AM
Ron914
[quote name='emerygt350' post='3203360' date='Ap... May 1 2025, 11:37 AM
TargaToy Well crap. I didn’t realize there was no longer... Apr 29 2025, 07:09 PM
Ron914
Well crap. I didn’t realize there was no longe... Apr 29 2025, 07:47 PM
emerygt350 I believe Chris is looking for a replacement. Apr 29 2025, 07:29 PM
emerygt350 I agree. I think anders is really doing the deep... Apr 30 2025, 04:33 AM
Ron914
I agree. I think anders is really doing the dee... Apr 30 2025, 06:18 PM
worn
I needed to rebuild my MPS but Chris Foley is out... Apr 30 2025, 05:30 PM
Ron914
I needed to rebuild my MPS but Chris Foley is ou... Apr 30 2025, 05:41 PM
emerygt350 Don't worry, the mps is all self contained. T... Apr 30 2025, 06:49 PM
Ron914
Don't worry, the mps is all self contained. ... Apr 30 2025, 07:20 PM
emerygt350 Your favorite FLAPS. Cheap plastic t works fine. ... May 1 2025, 01:46 PM
MDTerp Agree, I use a cheap plastic T connection. Here... May 1 2025, 07:47 PM
ChrisFoley Its a good idea to test the mityvac on a dead ende... May 2 2025, 05:57 AM
Ron914
Its a good idea to test the mityvac on a dead end... May 2 2025, 07:46 AM![]() ![]() |
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