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> Seat Belt Interlock Relay, Late 74-76’ - how does it work?
Superhawk996
post May 15 2025, 09:57 AM
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For those of you that despise the seatbelt / starter interlock and the horrific screeching noise the seat belt buzzer makes - let me say I understand completely. As I’ve been playing with this on the bench my wife now hates the noise just as much as I do.

This thread is going to explain how it works and how to bench test it over the coming days.

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Credit is owed to @JeffBowlsby , @Bdstone914 , and @Montreal914 for providing me with donor parts that will make this thread possible.

Eventually I will post the schematic of this ridiculous conglomeration of components. I hope to eventually put the circuit in LTSpice to help verify its theoretical operation. I make no warranty as to the accuracy of the schematic - this is just me satisfying my own curiosity.

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If you have no interest in my personality defects that would lead me to take on this little project; ignore this thread.

If you have a late car with an in-op system and eventually want to get it working - this thread is for you.

Toward the end I’ll share some ideas on how to get rid of or to change that horrific buzzer noise.
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davep
post May 16 2025, 03:18 PM
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Just saw this thread. I worked on this about 3 years ago. There appears to be about 4 circuits: 2 x 74, 1x 75 1 x 76
1974 there is a ground terminal (1/4" spade) riveted to the floor pan, and is either used or not. This uses the two relay system.
1975 uses just the dual relay
1976 uses just a single relay

The two minute restart delay comes from the oil pressure switch, and the time that it takes for the oil pressure to drop, the switch closes, and the idiot light comes on. SO, if you want to thwart the interlock system, then just pull the oil pressure switch wires from the relay and join them together so that the idiot light works as usual. Then the logic relay is tricked into thinking the oil pressure is always high.

I have some better drawings if you need them.
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post May 16 2025, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(davep @ May 16 2025, 05:18 PM) *


The two minute restart delay comes from the oil pressure switch, and the time that it takes for the oil pressure to drop, the switch closes, and the idiot light comes on.

I have some better drawings if you need them.

@davep glad to hear that about the oil pressure input onto pin “B” - that was the only way I can see the time dependency being met based on the bench testing.

I was thinking that but didn’t quite want to say that out loud just yet. 2 minutes +/- 1 minutes is pretty ambitious for oil pressure bleed down. May just have been my cars. While I can see 1 minute being pretty reasonable I’m not sure any of my cars held oil pressure switch off for 3 minutes after a shutdown when hot.

By all means if you have info to add about year to year dependency - post it up. Since I have never owned anything other than 73’s I’m at a disadvantage on this little journey.
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Superhawk996   Seat Belt Interlock Relay   May 15 2025, 09:57 AM
Superhawk996   My curiosity in this part is the result of the Hay...   May 15 2025, 10:05 AM
Superhawk996   Let’s start with how this thing is supposed to w...   May 15 2025, 10:06 AM
ClayPerrine   While I am curious to know how it works, I am stil...   May 15 2025, 11:09 AM
Superhawk996   While I am curious to know how it works, I am sti...   May 15 2025, 11:34 AM
914werke   [url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=...   May 15 2025, 11:44 AM
Superhawk996   [url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=...   May 15 2025, 11:59 AM
Superhawk996   So this is where things start to go astray. I ca...   May 15 2025, 11:57 AM
fiacra   The one thing I haven’t been able to find is a...   May 15 2025, 04:51 PM
Superhawk996   Here you go. From my 1975 Owner's manual. ...   May 15 2025, 06:52 PM
rjames   Following :popcorn: I've thought about tryi...   May 15 2025, 12:53 PM
Root_Werks   Following :popcorn: I've thought about try...   May 15 2025, 01:06 PM
Superhawk996   Let’s start with the Haynes / factory manual bla...   May 15 2025, 02:47 PM
Superhawk996   The PIN ID’s are clearly labeled on the interloc...   May 15 2025, 02:59 PM
Superhawk996   The Fasten Seat Belt light is powered by 12v suppl...   May 15 2025, 03:03 PM
Superhawk996   So let’s talk about the horrific buzzer If a s...   May 15 2025, 03:39 PM
rjames   F that buzzer. :lol:   May 15 2025, 06:01 PM
Superhawk996   F that buzzer. :lol: :lol4: for sure! I...   May 15 2025, 06:38 PM
Artfrombama   Interesting, appreciate the research! P. O. di...   May 15 2025, 07:05 PM
JeffBowlsby   This is awesome Phil! Chipping away at one of...   May 15 2025, 09:51 PM
StarBear   :popcorn: Enjoying this immensely. Disconnected m...   May 16 2025, 06:53 AM
flipb   Just checked my 1974 manual and it's pretty mu...   May 16 2025, 07:08 AM
friethmiller   Great thread, Phil. :popcorn: On my red '74 ...   May 16 2025, 07:30 AM
Superhawk996   I know I have the smaller relay (see arrow). N...   May 16 2025, 12:54 PM
barefoot   I know I have the smaller relay (see arrow). ...   May 16 2025, 01:29 PM
Superhawk996   You must have a lot of free time on your hands, ...   May 16 2025, 02:00 PM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='barefoot' post='3205819' date='May 1...   May 16 2025, 02:49 PM
Superhawk996   I would just build a small electronic circuit wi...   May 16 2025, 05:37 PM
ClayPerrine   I can remember taking the seat cushion out of Bett...   May 16 2025, 09:16 AM
Superhawk996   I can remember taking the seat cushion out of Bet...   May 16 2025, 12:56 PM
davep   Just saw this thread. I worked on this about 3 yea...   May 16 2025, 03:18 PM
Superhawk996   The two minute restart delay comes from the oil ...   May 16 2025, 05:31 PM
Superhawk996   Driver side seat circuits The driver side seat c...   May 16 2025, 07:22 PM
Superhawk996   Here’s how the situation looks on the bench with...   May 16 2025, 07:32 PM
Superhawk996   And again with the seat belt fastened where the op...   May 16 2025, 07:34 PM
Superhawk996   So at this point we are though the sit down & ...   May 16 2025, 08:06 PM
Superhawk996   I know almost no one cares about the internal deta...   May 16 2025, 08:26 PM
Superhawk996   Oh - here’s which relays are which The starter...   May 16 2025, 09:03 PM
Superhawk996   More coming on observed anomalies and how the oil ...   May 16 2025, 09:07 PM
Superhawk996   This video shows behavior of the relay under a cou...   May 19 2025, 11:44 AM


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