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> Need help--Brake pedal goes all the way to floor after several new parts replaced
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post Jun 4 2025, 08:56 PM
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I posted a few weeks ago about leaking reservoir tubes under the gas tank. I replaced those and the leaking stopped. I bled the calipers, but did not bleed the master cylinder. This was the first time I had about 5% stopping power and the pedal went to the floor, not sure if you'd call it spongy, but there was no resistance. That was a couple weeks ago.

Today I replaced the master with a 17mm ATE, rebuilt one of the front calipers, replaced the front soft lines. The rear steel lines still looked good, so I left them. I bled the new master. It took about an hour of pushing out air bubbles, and two quarts of brake fluid into the system to complete the MC bleeding. Once done, the pedal was still pillow soft.

Now on to the caliper bleeding--I purchased the Motive pressure bleeding system. Pumped it up to 5 psi as recommended by Ian Karr. About 30 seconds later the Motive bottle was at 0 psi. There aren't any fluid leaks in the brake system. I replaced the reservoir seal and added Teflon tape to the fitting in the Motive hose. Still loses pressure.

I tried the HF bleeder you hook up to your compressor. For 3 minutes about 5% fluid and 95% air entered the bottle. About 8 ounces of fluid came out. That is where I left off after a full day of brake work. Then I thought, did I cross the reservoir lines? I don't believe I did that, and I don't think that would cause my situation.

Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Sean
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post Jun 5 2025, 09:58 PM
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Tonight's update. Pulled the tank again to look underneath for leakage. No leaks, but I jiggled the reservoir tubes and bubbles came up from the master. Finally located the pressure regulator, thanks
fiacra. Gave it some rubber mallet love.

Pedal cluster floor was dry. Took my time using the long tube method. Began the bleeding process once again. At the end I finally had a hard pedal. Hooked up the Motive to see if the system holds the pressure steady.

Pumped it up to 15 psi and lost about 2 psi every 30 seconds. This is light years better than yesterday. I could not locate an air vent or a overflow on the reservoir. Tomorrow I will inspect it with a microscope to find the vent and overflow. That is probably the last issue. I did put my ear up to the reservoir while the system had the 15 psi in it. I did not hear air escaping.

Had I not hooked it up to the Motive bottle, I would have thought the job was done.
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914xr75   Need help--Brake pedal goes all the way to floor after several new parts replaced   Jun 4 2025, 08:56 PM
Artfrombama   Are you bleeding from the TOP of the calipers?   Jun 4 2025, 09:06 PM
porschetub   I posted a few weeks ago about leaking reservoir ...   Jun 4 2025, 10:00 PM
infraredcalvin   Fluid is going somewhere, did you plug the overflo...   Jun 4 2025, 10:02 PM
rjames   Where did you find a 17 mm ATE MC?! Good find...   Jun 4 2025, 10:56 PM
76-914   Where did you find a 17 mm ATE MC?! Good find...   Jun 5 2025, 04:03 PM
914xr75   rjames--long tube method is brilliant! Pelican...   Jun 5 2025, 06:42 AM
davep   Your profile does not list a 914, so that does not...   Jun 5 2025, 07:11 AM
fiacra   Your profile does not list a 914, so that does no...   Jun 5 2025, 01:36 PM
PanelBilly   Did you plug the air vent on the top of the reserv...   Jun 5 2025, 05:39 PM
914xr75   Tonight's update. Pulled the tank again to loo...   Jun 5 2025, 09:58 PM
fiacra   Tonight's update. Pulled the tank again to lo...   Jun 6 2025, 09:00 AM
emerygt350   How did you bleed the mc? If that's not done ...   Jun 6 2025, 04:20 AM
davep   The reservoir cap or the reservoir itself has to h...   Jun 6 2025, 08:03 AM
914sgofast2   Was the 17mm master cylinder NOS or a recently man...   Jun 6 2025, 08:34 AM
914xr75   Update------defective brand new Motive Power Bleed...   Jun 6 2025, 10:10 AM
fiacra   Update------defective brand new Motive Power Blee...   Jun 6 2025, 10:59 AM
914rrr   I'll likely not have a pedal pusher assistant,...   Oct 15 2026, 08:47 PM


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