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> How Stiff is Your Thing?
bkrantz
post Jun 22 2025, 06:43 PM
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Mine is too stiff, I think. Oh, the thing I mean is the internal door latch mechanism. And the part that seems stiff is the locking function.

In case your never spent any intimate time with the mechanism, the locking function is done by a stamped plate that shifts up (to lock) and down (to unlock). I continue to have problems unlocking the doors with keys, even after Curt did his magic on the cylinders.

Since the up-down shift of the locking plate is accomplished by the little lever on the internal end of the cylinder, as twisted by the key, so it would seem to be better if the plate shifted without much resistance.

Oh, and I have tried some different lubes.


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post Jun 23 2025, 11:29 AM
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Thanks, guys. Here is an annotated version of the photo that shows what I think is going on.

The dashed red outline is the locking plate. This is attached to the main latch base only at the bottom (right side) by a permanent rivet, with the large circular washer. The locking plate shifts up and down (left and right--red arrows). The locking plate also rotates around the rivet, which is how lifting the outer door handle unlatches the closed door.

As it does so, it also rotates the lever (dashed blue outline) which then moves the long rod on the door forward or back (blue arrow). The rod connects to the inside door lock button that either sits flush with the inside handle or pokes out. Of course this linkage also works in reverse, and moving the inside lock button moves the rod which moves the lever (blue outline) which shifts the locking plate (red outline) up or down.

The green arrow shows where the locking plate and door bar level meet.

First of all, what mad scientist came up with this design? Did the Porsche/Karmann families have some clever but insane cousin they kept locked in the basement?

Second, the resistance to shifting the locking plate seems to be (1) the lower pivot (rivet), (2) the pivot for the locking bar rod lever, and (3) the drag along the long rod and and internal door lock button plus the miscellaneous contacts of all the parts. On this latch I am pretty sure the lower pivot is pretty loose. I am not sure about the rod lever pivot. I will check that out. My concern is that twisting the key, which rotates the little arm on the inside of the cylinder, has to do LOTS of work, and can bind.

Third, do I really need the internal door lock button to function? If not, at least I can at least disconnect the rod, and the drag of all the stuff "downstream". I could even disconnect the rod lever (as mlinder suggested)--just by removing the spring?


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bkrantz   How Stiff is Your Thing?   Jun 22 2025, 06:43 PM
76-914   Mine is too stiff, I think. Oh, the thing I mean...   Jun 22 2025, 07:07 PM
mlindner   I had the same problem for years. After I had the ...   Jun 23 2025, 08:02 AM
mmichalik   I had the same issue with my 75. I took the same ...   Jun 23 2025, 09:16 AM
bkrantz   Thanks, guys. Here is an annotated version of the...   Jun 23 2025, 11:29 AM
Chris914n6   You didn't say what you used to clean and grea...   Jun 23 2025, 12:20 PM
ClayPerrine   An addendum. About every 2 years or so I pull th...   Jun 23 2025, 12:59 PM
Artfrombama   An addendum. About every 2 years or so I pull t...   Jun 23 2025, 09:11 PM
Front yard mechanic   Not to soft but it sure is short   Jun 23 2025, 08:26 PM
bkrantz   OK, I decided to try some new ideas. First, I wil...   Jul 10 2025, 07:45 PM
bkrantz   I pulled and twisted the spring (green arrow) so t...   Jul 10 2025, 07:50 PM
bkrantz   Now the locking plate and tab (red arrow) can shif...   Jul 10 2025, 07:55 PM
bkrantz   The only friction for the locking plate now is the...   Jul 10 2025, 07:58 PM
bkrantz   My second innovation is to try a different lube st...   Jul 10 2025, 08:01 PM
bkrantz   Internal latch back in place. I did have to conne...   Jul 10 2025, 08:04 PM
bkrantz   External handle installed--and tested. Seems like...   Jul 10 2025, 08:08 PM
DRPHIL914   Frog lube huh? :blink: :blink: ok no comments ...   Jul 11 2025, 11:44 AM
bkrantz   Frog lube huh? :blink: :blink: ok no comments...   Jul 11 2025, 06:50 PM
Steve   I just spray the crap out of everything every 10 y...   Jul 12 2025, 11:02 AM


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