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| JeffBowlsby |  Jul 8 2025, 09:00 AM 
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| 914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper      Group: Members Posts: 9,102 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None    | I just learned that Porsche (Germany) has now limited their access for the Certificate (Zertificate) because the 914 is too old – nothing older than a 993 is now possible. I wonder if this is related to the new system of PPS and CTC for classic Porsche here in the US? | 
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| davep |  Jul 12 2025, 09:35 AM 
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| 914 Historian      Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,330 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada    | Yes, by "synchronized" I mean that the the two numbers are the same. Back in 1965 when the 912 was introduced Karmann added their own number to the chassis; initially in the speaker recess in the dash, then after about 3500 cars it was stamped on the tunnel along the edge of the hole at the rear for linkage access. Back then the number was not synchronized with the VIN/Production #, but was in the same format. In 1968 there were 911 chassis built by Karmann, and the Karmann # again mimicked the VIN but was generally not identical. In 1969 the VIN was no longer the Production # and the format of the Production # and the Karmann # changed from that of the VIN. The Karmann # was the same series for both 911 & 912, but again they were not synchronized. 1970 brought the 914/4 & 914/6. For the 911 & 912 the Production # and the Karmann # became synchronized, but the 914/6 was not; about 2500 cars into 1970 914/6 MY the Production # and the Karmann # did become synchronized. In fact the Karmann # was not identical in format with the Production #; it was missing the year digit in 1970, but got the missing digit for 1971. The 914/4 got an entirely different Production # and Karmann # scheme, but they they were not synchronized until the 1974 model year. And, as we have discovered, not only has the Karmann # scheme varied a bit over the years (base xxy95zz and xxy90zz) but has been shared with some VW models for a period of time. | 
 JeffBowlsby   Porsche Certificate (Zertificate) NLA   Jul 8 2025, 09:00 AM
 JeffBowlsby   Porsche Certificate (Zertificate) NLA   Jul 8 2025, 09:00 AM 
  davep   That may explain why the 914/4 data disappeared a ...   Jul 8 2025, 10:39 PM
 davep   That may explain why the 914/4 data disappeared a ...   Jul 8 2025, 10:39 PM 
  JeffBowlsby   Don’t think they are deleted, just only accessib...   Jul 8 2025, 10:52 PM
 JeffBowlsby   Don’t think they are deleted, just only accessib...   Jul 8 2025, 10:52 PM 
  914Sixer   Another way to make more money?   Jul 9 2025, 01:40 PM
 914Sixer   Another way to make more money?   Jul 9 2025, 01:40 PM 
  wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Jul 10 2025, 05:34 PM
 wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Jul 10 2025, 05:34 PM 
  JeffBowlsby   Sounds good Michael.  Let us know how it works out...   Jul 10 2025, 07:27 PM
 JeffBowlsby   Sounds good Michael.  Let us know how it works out...   Jul 10 2025, 07:27 PM 
  davep   Oh, the dealership system may be devoid of the ear...   Jul 11 2025, 06:27 AM
 davep   Oh, the dealership system may be devoid of the ear...   Jul 11 2025, 06:27 AM
 
  wonkipop   
Oh, the dealership system may be devoid of the ea...   Jul 11 2025, 05:13 PM
 wonkipop   
Oh, the dealership system may be devoid of the ea...   Jul 11 2025, 05:13 PM
 
  wonkipop   
Yes, by "synchronized" I mean that the ...   Jul 12 2025, 05:14 PM
 wonkipop   
Yes, by "synchronized" I mean that the ...   Jul 12 2025, 05:14 PM 
  wonkipop   @davep 
i found again some of the primary materia...   Jul 14 2025, 07:04 PM
 wonkipop   @davep 
i found again some of the primary materia...   Jul 14 2025, 07:04 PM 
  davep   That is a very good summary. So let us assume 3 pr...   Jul 19 2025, 09:19 AM
 davep   That is a very good summary. So let us assume 3 pr...   Jul 19 2025, 09:19 AM
 
  wonkipop   
That is a very good summary. So let us assume 3 p...   Jul 19 2025, 05:16 PM
 wonkipop   
That is a very good summary. So let us assume 3 p...   Jul 19 2025, 05:16 PM

 
  davep   
but that accords with the view that all of the 91...   Jul 27 2025, 03:39 PM
 davep   
but that accords with the view that all of the 91...   Jul 27 2025, 03:39 PM


 
  wonkipop   
but that accords with the view that all of the 9...   Jul 27 2025, 06:17 PM
 wonkipop   
but that accords with the view that all of the 9...   Jul 27 2025, 06:17 PM


 
  wonkipop   
but that accords with the view that all of the 9...   Jul 30 2025, 02:00 AM
 wonkipop   
but that accords with the view that all of the 9...   Jul 30 2025, 02:00 AM


 
  wonkipop   
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3215759' date='Jul 1...   Aug 1 2025, 08:16 PM
 wonkipop   
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3215759' date='Jul 1...   Aug 1 2025, 08:16 PM 
  davep   I stand corrected. I've never seen photos befo...   Aug 2 2025, 07:38 AM
 davep   I stand corrected. I've never seen photos befo...   Aug 2 2025, 07:38 AM
 
  wonkipop   
I stand corrected. I've never seen photos bef...   Aug 2 2025, 02:18 PM
 wonkipop   
I stand corrected. I've never seen photos bef...   Aug 2 2025, 02:18 PM|   | 
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