Porsche Certificate (Zertificate) NLA Options

[JeffBowlsby]

I just learned that Porsche (Germany) has now limited their access for the Certificate (Zertificate) because the 914 is too old – nothing older than a 993 is now possible.

I wonder if this is related to the new system of PPS and CTC for classic Porsche here in the US?

[davep]

That is a very good summary. So let us assume 3 production lines, then line 1 uses 0, 1, 2 for the fifth digit, line 2 uses 3, 4 for the fifth digit, line 3 uses 5, 6, 7 for the fifth digit.
I find it a bit odd that the Scirocco bumped the 914 onto line 1 instead of taking over line 1. Perhaps line 3 was easier to convert for Scirocco production; possibly the newest line in the factory.

1974 week 36 was the transition to xxy9000 base, then week 37 through week 42 the numbers range from 001 to 367 with an outlier of 880 if the reported data is to be believed. However it appear that from week 37 through 42 they mixed the models on lines 1 & 2 to produce just shy of 400 cars a day. We would need a lot of data from 914 production during the period, as well as from any VW/Karmann vehicles in production at the time.
If you have relevant data you could send me, It would aid my understanding. Surely there must be someone as nuts as I am collecting this data for Beatle cabs, Ghia's and Scirocco's. I just need to find those people.

[wonkipop]

That is a very good summary. So let us assume 3 production lines, then line 1 uses 0, 1, 2 for the fifth digit, line 2 uses 3, 4 for the fifth digit, line 3 uses 5, 6, 7 for the fifth digit.
I find it a bit odd that the Scirocco bumped the 914 onto line 1 instead of taking over line 1. Perhaps line 3 was easier to convert for Scirocco production; possibly the newest line in the factory.

1974 week 36 was the transition to xxy9000 base, then week 37 through week 42 the numbers range from 001 to 367 with an outlier of 880 if the reported data is to be believed. However it appear that from week 37 through 42 they mixed the models on lines 1 & 2 to produce just shy of 400 cars a day. We would need a lot of data from 914 production during the period, as well as from any VW/Karmann vehicles in production at the time.
If you have relevant data you could send me, It would aid my understanding. Surely there must be someone as nuts as I am collecting this data for Beatle cabs, Ghia's and Scirocco's. I just need to find those people.

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probably no one in VW land as nuts dave. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i did see something interesting yesterday when i ventured out to classic porsche car and coffee do at the main porsche dealership down town here.

there was a left hand drive 912. obviously of USA origin i believe.
beautifully restored. it had a porsche C of A on it.
the C of A described it as a "karmann coupe".
i forgot to take a photo of the certificate.
but that accords with the view that all of the 912s in the 60s were built at karmann the same way that 914/6s were also built. body supplied to stuttgart fully trimmed, mechanicals fitted at porsche in stuttgart.

unlike the RHD 912s. they were all built by reuter in stuttgart. and are rare as hens teeth. only about 100 or so made. split between UK and Aus mainly.

also confirmed cost of this new classic process at porsche is 1000 bucks australian.
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the whole event as it turned out was to flog the new C of A process porsche are promoting. they asked me was i interested for my 914. i told them i had a long memory and i believed it was a VW. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) i did get a laugh out of them.

[davep]

but that accords with the view that all of the 912s in the 60s were built at Karmann the same way that 914/6s were also built. body supplied to Stuttgart fully trimmed, mechanicals fitted at Porsche in Stuttgart.

I understand that the Karmann built 912's were completed at Karmann just as the 914/4 were. I think the 914/6 was the exception when fully trimmed bodies were delivered to Porsche for final assembly

[wonkipop]

but that accords with the view that all of the 912s in the 60s were built at Karmann the same way that 914/6s were also built. body supplied to Stuttgart fully trimmed, mechanicals fitted at Porsche in Stuttgart.

I understand that the Karmann built 912's were completed at Karmann just as the 914/4 were. I think the 914/6 was the exception when fully trimmed bodies were delivered to Porsche for final assembly

my info is that the 914/6 is not only exception.
karmann built 356 c built same way as 914/6.
trimmed finished body shipped to porsche where running gear and engines installed.

previously i had thought all 912s were built the same way.
not completely finished at karmann. just a trimmed completed body.
but recently i found out all rhd 912s had reutter bodies and were completely built at zuffenhausen. also euro market 912s. karmann built the 912s for USA.

but i don't really know with any authority. though i did speak to the guy with the 912 at the c and c @ porsche. he said his was body built at karmann, car finished in stuttgart. it was a left hand drive USA import car he had. he seemed to know a bit about them - but you know? who knows. he did say he believed the karmann built cars were better in his view. karmann worked hard to deliver better quality than reutter. competitive spirit? i didn't bring up RUST. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)