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> No Alt. light after start up but battery not topping off ..
Literati914
post Aug 9 2025, 10:35 AM
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My battery was bought last month.. Alternator light comes on with the key on, but goes out at start up. Battery keeps running low and eventually won't start the car. Does this point to anything usual - VR maybe?
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post Aug 29 2025, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Aug 28 2025, 12:38 PM) *

If you want to measure the voltage drop in that cracked wire:

Use meter (milli-volts scale).

Engine running - voltage regulator plugged in. That alternator connected - plugged into the relay board.

Meter ground lead to alternator case. Where the lead is placed matters. Measuring to the pivot bolt or fan should will not give an accurate measurement.

Meter positive lead to the spade connector on the cracked wire, of that 3 pin alternator connector. You have to back probe that connector while it’s plugged into the relay board.

Reading should be 0.0v

Anything higher than that indicates corrosion in the wiring and a voltage drop across that wire.


I went out meaning to do this test yesterday evening - immediately noticed the battery needed charging, so I slapped the charger on and just went ahead and repaired the broken wire (it had to be fixed regardless). Then it started raining, so I called it a day on the car.

-An interesting observation when charging the battery though .. with the car's battery cables still attached to the battery, I hooked up the positive side of the charger as usual, then I added the charger's neg lead to the top of the brass negative cable fitting which gave the tiniest of sparks as normal, but when I readjusted the allegator clip it would aggressively spark when touching the steel bolt of the clamp. I'd never noticed that before was kind of surprised by it. Probably normal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) but would that be an indication of anything in particular? (like a parasitic draw?, bad battery ground?)
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post Aug 29 2025, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(Literati914 @ Aug 29 2025, 01:50 PM) *

Probably normal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) but would that be an indication of anything in particular? (like a parasitic draw?, bad battery ground?)

Yeah pretty normal. When you first connect the charger it takes a little time for the current, and the electrolyte ions to get moving toward the plates. Once that is in motion, the current gets flowing more than it was at the initial connection and messing with clamps will generate more sparks than the initial connection.

Please be careful with the sparkage. Battery explosions are a real thing with lead acid flooded cell batteries if the hydrogen gets built up. Not sure if you are AGM or flooded cell but be careful out there.

If there is any doubt in your mind about parasitic draw measure it.
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Literati914   No Alt. light after start up but battery not topping off ..   Aug 9 2025, 10:35 AM
GregAmy   Does this point to anything usual - VR maybe? What...   Aug 9 2025, 10:44 AM
fixer34   Could be several things but VR is a likely suspect...   Aug 9 2025, 11:24 AM
TheCabinetmaker   Check the belt tension   Aug 9 2025, 12:04 PM
Literati914   Does this point to anything usual - VR maybe? Wha...   Aug 10 2025, 07:14 PM
GregAmy   update - the bulb is not blown. I can get it to l...   Aug 10 2025, 08:13 PM
Lockwodo   [quote name='GregAmy' post='3218602' date='Aug 9 ...   Aug 10 2025, 09:41 PM
dtmehall   I experienced similar symptoms about 4 years ago. ...   Aug 10 2025, 07:24 PM
Spoke   There is a quick test you can do on the alternator...   Aug 10 2025, 07:26 PM
Literati914   just noticed that my alt bulb has blown after tigh...   Aug 10 2025, 07:26 PM
Literati914   update - the bulb is not blown. I can get it to li...   Aug 10 2025, 07:42 PM
Literati914   Alt light with ground provided by test light… li...   Aug 10 2025, 07:54 PM
Literati914   You can see the rat’s nest of wires here   Aug 10 2025, 07:55 PM
Literati914   update - the bulb is not blown. I can get it to ...   Aug 10 2025, 08:39 PM
Literati914   [quote name='Literati914' post='3218779' date='A...   Aug 10 2025, 09:17 PM
Spoke   removing the alt plug at the relay board in order...   Aug 11 2025, 05:30 AM
Literati914   If the battery voltage, measured at the terminals...   Aug 11 2025, 01:35 PM
Lockwodo   If the battery voltage, measured at the terminal...   Aug 12 2025, 12:04 PM
Literati914   .. If you unplugged the alternator please plug it...   Aug 11 2025, 02:32 PM
Spoke   .. If you unplugged the alternator please plug i...   Aug 11 2025, 04:02 PM
Literati914   .. What is the battery voltage at idle? Positive ...   Aug 11 2025, 04:27 PM
Spoke   .. What is the battery voltage at idle? Positive...   Aug 11 2025, 06:41 PM
Literati914   I did the test - jumper wire between D+/DF (with V...   Aug 11 2025, 07:06 PM
Literati914   .. Can you measure the battery voltage and D+ wi...   Aug 11 2025, 07:15 PM
Spoke   .. Can you measure the battery voltage and D+ w...   Aug 11 2025, 11:34 PM
GregAmy   I tend to agree that it's a diode, which is a ...   Aug 12 2025, 07:50 AM
Superhawk996   I’ve been reluctant to chime in . . . . Cause Iâ...   Aug 12 2025, 09:14 AM
GregAmy   ^^^ Good points.   Aug 12 2025, 09:58 AM
Literati914   Still dealing with the problem of alternator not c...   Aug 27 2025, 04:17 PM
emerygt350   I have really enjoyed my negative terminal to the ...   Aug 27 2025, 04:59 PM
Literati914   I've already installed something similar - top...   Aug 27 2025, 05:18 PM
Literati914   Also, I just found the following break in the wire...   Aug 27 2025, 06:36 PM
Superhawk996   Also, I just found the following break in the wir...   Aug 28 2025, 11:38 AM
emerygt350   Might be, however I wouldn't rely on the 50 ye...   Aug 27 2025, 07:50 PM
VaccaRabite   It does not take much of a voltage drop to dischar...   Aug 28 2025, 10:02 AM
Literati914   OK then, the plan is to run a wire off the lower p...   Aug 28 2025, 10:24 AM
KELTY360   Beware adding two fixes at once. The added ground ...   Aug 28 2025, 11:02 AM
Literati914   If you want to measure the voltage drop in that c...   Aug 29 2025, 11:50 AM
Superhawk996   Probably normal :confused: but would that be an...   Aug 29 2025, 07:30 PM
Literati914   .. If there is any doubt in your mind about paras...   Aug 29 2025, 08:50 PM


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