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> 917 engine pics, been looking for a 908...but its cool
r_towle
post Feb 6 2005, 08:28 PM
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what an amazing piece of mechanical enginering...

http://www.pbase.com/917carl/917_12_cyl_engine
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Helium making the chassis lighter? I don't think so. Yes, helium is lighter than air, but by the time you pressurize it, your probably looking at the same mass as atmospheric pressure (14.7 psi/1 bar) air in the tubes would be. Now what would be lighter is if they sucked all the air out of the tubes and made it a vacuum.. less mass in the tubes, less mass overall.

The reason why the put helium in the tubes is because the welds need it on the backside to be stronger. "Perge" is the term used to weld tubing that needs to be structurally strong, stainless is one metal that REALLY shows a difference. When you purge those metals, if fact any metal for that matter, the opposite side that would normally be exposed to oxygen now is sheilded by the inert gas, making the back side of the weld look almost like the front side.

TIG welding, which is sometimes refurred to as Heli Arc, is what they had back in those days. The company that came up with the TIG welder was called "Heli Arc Co.". Now I would assume they named their company that because they first used helium as the inert sheild for welding, but thats not the reason why TIG welding is refurred as Heli-Arc. Kind of like "Vice Grip" or "Allen wrench", they are name brands.

The drivers were nerveous because they were in an 800hp car that weighed ~1700lbs and had horrible aero dynamics. Vic Elford finally became their test driver, and with his rally experience, he, more than any other driver, helped develop the 917's.
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r_towle   917 engine pics   Feb 6 2005, 08:28 PM
URY914   What you you think this engine is worth? $2-3...   Feb 7 2005, 07:40 AM
Brett W   Did you look at the 917 Chassis pics. Looks like ...   Feb 7 2005, 07:46 AM
URY914   Those welds look like mine! ...   Feb 7 2005, 07:51 AM
cnavarro   That engine is a thing of beauty. I just spent the...   Feb 7 2005, 09:01 AM
Quilmes   Here is a picture of the 16cyl engine that was des...   Feb 7 2005, 09:01 AM
Quilmes   One more view 917 16cyl engine.   Feb 7 2005, 09:02 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Not only is it 16 cylinder...it looks like twin pl...   Feb 7 2005, 09:07 AM
DuckRyder   I think I'll go into autozone and ask for a di...   Feb 7 2005, 09:11 AM
bd1308   OMG....look at that dizzy. finding ign problems mu...   Feb 7 2005, 09:12 AM
Aaron Cox   MFI too!   Feb 7 2005, 10:10 AM
Mueller   at the factory museum, they have an aluminum frame...   Feb 7 2005, 10:49 AM
Travis Neff   slide valve intakes... woohoo.   Feb 7 2005, 11:03 AM
BigD9146gt   towle, let me know what you find on the 8... I...   Feb 7 2005, 01:25 PM
sixnotfour   Have you seen these 8 banger 2.2 pics ? http://w...   Feb 7 2005, 01:32 PM
Reiche   I think I read once that the flat-16s crankshaft w...   Feb 7 2005, 01:51 PM
type47   you guys SUCK! it took 5 posts before someone ...   Feb 7 2005, 02:34 PM
BigD9146gt   Helium making the chassis lighter? I don't thi...   Feb 7 2005, 04:39 PM
andys   Thinking back to the glory days of Riverside, I re...   Feb 7 2005, 05:53 PM
BigD9146gt   Sammy, now that makes sence to pressurize the tube...   Feb 8 2005, 10:31 AM
URY914   Cool picture...   Feb 8 2005, 10:36 AM
Cloudbuster   The first run chassises, chassii -- frames -- were...   Feb 8 2005, 10:52 AM
BigD9146gt   Sammy, thats some pro- picking nutting giong on he...   Feb 8 2005, 11:08 AM
Quilmes   908 engine photo from Rennsport II Daytona   Feb 8 2005, 12:28 PM
Quilmes   Here is one from a 917-30   Feb 8 2005, 12:29 PM
Cloudbuster   How much weight gets added in bungs, gauge and plu...   Feb 8 2005, 12:55 PM
andys     Feb 8 2005, 02:10 PM
andys     Feb 8 2005, 02:26 PM
Cloudbuster     Feb 8 2005, 02:39 PM
physician   the good thing about using helium is that you dont...   Feb 8 2005, 03:26 PM
BigD9146gt   I personally like how in the pictures of the 917 e...   Feb 8 2005, 04:07 PM
r_towle     Feb 8 2005, 08:21 PM


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