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> Brake / soft pedal trouble shooting, Brake pedal gone soft and fluid reservoir empty
Fart/4
post Sep 21 2025, 02:26 PM
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Had the car for about 15 years
Never touched the brakes as in original ( to me )
Rotors , pads etc

Over the last about 100 miles brake pedal has gotten progressively
Softer and now go's down to the floor pretty much

Checked the reservoir and it's bone dry

Car still stops reasonable we'll , but pedal is very soft and is about 80% travel when brakes bite or engage

Should i immediately just take it to my aircooled guy/ mechanic

Or refill the fluid and see what happens approach
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post Sep 22 2025, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(Fart/4 @ Sep 21 2025, 03:26 PM) *

Had the car for about 15 years. Never touched the brakes as in original (to me) Rotors , pads etc

Might I suggest a refill and bleed? Or even better, new brake pads, then refill and bleed?

And are there any obvious leaks?

Reason I offer this, if you are still on your original brake pads, and there's no leaks, you may have simply run the brake fluid level too low due to normal wear of the pads. As pads wear, the pistons extend farther out and that lowers the reservoir fluid level. If you allow your pads to wear too much without regularly replenishing the fluid, you may have simply run it too low and started sucking in air*.

If this is the case, then a refill and bleed will resolve your brake pedal. However, this implies your pads are significantly worn out. Note that if you replace the pads after fill/bleed then you will overflow the reservoir as you are pushing back the pistons for the pads replacement...that's why I say replace pads first, refill the reservoir second, then bleed/flush the fluid last.

And if none of this mean anything to you then yeah, bring it to your guy to check out.

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*I don't have a hard date, but I think it it wasn't until sometime in the early- to mid-70s when the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) started requiring brake reservoirs large enough such that completely-worn-out pads/shoes all around would not result in air being introduced into the system.

And that does not take into consideration any leakage, introduction or water/contaminants, and/or evaporation.

S5.4.2 Reservoir capacity. Reservoirs, whether for master cylinders or other type systems, shall have a total minimum capacity equivalent to the fluid displacement resulting when all the wheel cylinders or caliper pistons serviced by the reservoirs move from a new lining, fully retracted position (as adjusted initially to the manufacturer's recommended setting) to a fully worn, fully applied position, as determined in accordance with S7.18 of this standard.
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