Is there a simple way to get a 914 jacked up enough to change oil Options

[dlindzey]

I can't even find a shop willing to change my oil so I am going to have to crawl around on the floor for a while. I have all the parts and a creeper but get confused on where you can put a floor jack and where you should put a jack stand as seems like same point is best for both the jack and the stands.
I have located the 4 donuts at the corners of the cab/chasis juncture, they seem ok. I am tempted to just get two floor jacks and jack up the rear at the donuts and call it a day. Is it dangerous to use jacks for support rather than putting a jack stand under there somewhere?
Ramps won't work as exhaust tip hits the ramp.
How do most of you solve this issue?

[Osnabruck914]

Quote from Jack Standz - "Those "donuts" are not designed to jack up your 914. They will bend/deform."

Then what pray, are they for? Almost every car I've ever owned has had similar donuts or sometimes squares for use as jacking points. I've been jacking 914s for decades using those donuts with never a problem. When I go to a garage (which is rarely) they lift the car using those donuts. A rust bucket of course is another story. Porsche must have had a reason to put them there.

Osnabruck914

[emerygt350]

Quote from Jack Standz - "Those "donuts" are not designed to jack up your 914. They will bend/deform."

Then what pray, are they for? Almost every car I've ever owned has had similar donuts or sometimes squares for use as jacking points. I've been jacking 914s for decades using those donuts with never a problem. When I go to a garage (which is rarely) they lift the car using those donuts. A rust bucket of course is another story. Porsche must have had a reason to put them there.

Osnabruck914

I am with you on this but apparently the donuts were for attachment during construction and were all joined to a single jig so no one donut ever held the weight alone. I can see that, but just try and stop me from using them as jack points...

[mepstein]

Quote from Jack Standz - "Those "donuts" are not designed to jack up your 914. They will bend/deform."

Then what pray, are they for? Almost every car I've ever owned has had similar donuts or sometimes squares for use as jacking points. I've been jacking 914s for decades using those donuts with never a problem. When I go to a garage (which is rarely) they lift the car using those donuts. A rust bucket of course is another story. Porsche must have had a reason to put them there.

Osnabruck914

I am with you on this but apparently the donuts were for attachment during construction and were all joined to a single jig so no one donut ever held the weight alone. I can see that, but just try and stop me from using them as jack points...

The donuts fit the pins on the car carrier that moved the cars down the line during construction. It’s not very heavy duty metal and they tend to bend easily. There are stronger points on the car that work better for raising the car.