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emerygt350
post Jun 6 2025, 08:08 PM
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An insert for 275? What and why? Is it just rarity? Some strange one off design that no other car uses?
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post Nov 2 2025, 11:20 AM
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It looks like the strut uses an early pinch bolt (large nut securing the bolt, split between the ends that secure the ball joint). If that’s correct, they are probably early 911T struts and probably Boge. Boge struts will have an embossed area halfway up the body with Boge name and part number. So long story short, if they are Boge 3” struts, Boge replacement inserts will drop right in. Easy to do at home. Jack up the side of the car, remove top nut on strut, drop the strut under the fender lip, pipe wrench to remove gland nut. Install is reverse but use a jack under the ball joint to raise the strut back into the strut retaining area on the car. Takes 15-20 minutes per side. No need to remove the entire strut from the suspension. Just be carrot the paint on the fender.

Personally, I would do the fronts and take it for a drive. You might not need the rears done. The front controls 75% of the feel of the car.

I could be wrong but the 914-4 rear sway bars were 15mm and 914-6 were 16mm. Not a significant difference in feel but if it’s a bar for a six, it’s pretty valuable compared to one for a four. At least to an owner of a real six. You can also disengage the rear bar and see if you like the ride. Using a rear bar isn’t mandatory on a 914. Some guys control the roll with just springs. Maybe a bit more understeer but it’s a common setup to just use a front. Easy enough to try it and see if it works for you.
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post Nov 3 2025, 06:16 AM
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I could be wrong but the 914-4 rear sway bars were 15mm and 914-6 were 16mm. Not a significant difference in feel but if it’s a bar for a six, it’s pretty valuable compared to one for a four. At least to an owner of a real six. You can also disengage the rear bar and see if you like the ride. Using a rear bar isn’t mandatory on a 914. Some guys control the roll with just springs. Maybe a bit more understeer but it’s a common setup to just use a front. Easy enough to try it and see if it works for you.


As far as I can tel from what I have read and from the parts manual, 15 front / 16 rear was what was offered as the standard (optional) accessories for the '74's. Mine are in any case aftermarkets - my car didn't have either front or rear when I got it, so I had them put on.

You may be right about the fronts only - back in the late '70s when I had my first one in CA (also a '74) it had a front stabilizer, but no rear one.

And, OT - I wanted to add an aftermarket sway bar kit to my '57 T-Bird. The car was standard with a front ~5/8" sway bar and no rear (on a rigid rear axle), the aftermarket kit replaced the front with a 7/8" bar plus added a rear. But I could not for the life of me get the rear one mounted - it interfered with the exhaust. Someone suggested I just replace the front bar, that I wouldn't really miss the rear. They were right - the stiffer front bar really improves the handling and it doesn't really feel like it needs a rear one. OK, it handles like a boat anyway, but that's the nature of the beast.
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post Nov 3 2025, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE(chmillman @ Nov 3 2025, 06:16 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 2 2025, 06:20 PM) *


I could be wrong but the 914-4 rear sway bars were 15mm and 914-6 were 16mm. Not a significant difference in feel but if it’s a bar for a six, it’s pretty valuable compared to one for a four. At least to an owner of a real six. You can also disengage the rear bar and see if you like the ride. Using a rear bar isn’t mandatory on a 914. Some guys control the roll with just springs. Maybe a bit more understeer but it’s a common setup to just use a front. Easy enough to try it and see if it works for you.


As far as I can tel from what I have read and from the parts manual, 15 front / 16 rear was what was offered as the standard (optional) accessories for the '74's. Mine are in any case aftermarkets - my car didn't have either front or rear when I got it, so I had them put on.

You may be right about the fronts only - back in the late '70s when I had my first one in CA (also a '74) it had a front stabilizer, but no rear one.

And, OT - I wanted to add an aftermarket sway bar kit to my '57 T-Bird. The car was standard with a front ~5/8" sway bar and no rear (on a rigid rear axle), the aftermarket kit replaced the front with a 7/8" bar plus added a rear. But I could not for the life of me get the rear one mounted - it interfered with the exhaust. Someone suggested I just replace the front bar, that I wouldn't really miss the rear. They were right - the stiffer front bar really improves the handling and it doesn't really feel like it needs a rear one. OK, it handles like a boat anyway, but that's the nature of the beast.


believe you are correct. i have the factory installed sway bars on a 74.
it is a 1.8 didn't get anything else except a bin under the dash.
pretty sure its 15 front 16 rear. could check that i suppose with official literature, but have a feeling that is right.

think earlier on maybe they just did front sway bars.
but again would not know. don't stray too far from the "classic" that a 74 1.8 is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
its a good combo thats for sure. its goes around corners.
and i run skinny mini 165s too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
admittedly re issue XAS which are not really XAS of old but rather some sticky mess not designed to go the distance, just look the part and wear out while sticking.
the rear sway bars seem pretty good.
but then again......its all i have ever had.

though i have once driven a 914 without sway bars.
and its quite a bit different. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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emerygt350   Explain the 300 dollar shock to me   Jun 6 2025, 08:08 PM
bkrantz   An insert for 275? What and why? Is it just rar...   Jun 6 2025, 10:19 PM
emerygt350   [quote name='emerygt350' post='3209243' date='Jun...   Jun 7 2025, 04:45 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   we had the original boges duplicated by a suspensi...   Jun 7 2025, 09:17 AM
Superhawk996   we had the original boges duplicated by a suspens...   Jun 7 2025, 09:42 AM
Shivers   I think I’ll see if they can rebuild mine. Price...   Jun 7 2025, 05:04 AM
DennisV   I think I’ll see if they can rebuild mine. Pric...   Jun 7 2025, 11:21 AM
Shivers   I think I’ll see if they can rebuild mine. Pri...   Jun 7 2025, 12:01 PM
914Sixer   Rebuilt shocks seem to be a thing of the past. I a...   Jun 7 2025, 05:35 AM
Shivers   Rebuilt shocks seem to be a thing of the past. I ...   Jun 7 2025, 07:32 AM
emerygt350   I think I might go with the reproduction from auto...   Jun 7 2025, 07:06 AM
Superhawk996   Yup a terrible shame there aren’t Monro-matic or...   Jun 7 2025, 07:51 AM
rick 918-S   Same deal with 914-4 CV's. It totally baffles ...   Jun 7 2025, 09:11 AM
Superhawk996   Same deal with 914-4 CV's. It totally baffles...   Jun 7 2025, 09:40 AM
rick 918-S   Same deal with 914-4 CV's. It totally baffle...   Jun 7 2025, 09:50 AM
Superhawk996   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='3209322' date='J...   Jun 7 2025, 09:55 AM
emerygt350   Yeah, not necessary. Too bad the cheap option app...   Jun 7 2025, 09:13 AM
rjames   Buyer beware- I saw a post on Facebook where someo...   Jun 7 2025, 09:17 AM
cgnj   @dr914 @autoatlanta.com I saw the post on the FB P...   Jun 8 2025, 10:47 AM
emerygt350   Well. Always a surprise. Still leaking though... ...   Jun 12 2025, 11:29 AM
emerygt350   Just took her through some twisty mountain roads, ...   Jun 12 2025, 01:02 PM
mepstein   At least on Bilsteins’ there is supposed to be a...   Jun 12 2025, 01:20 PM
emerygt350   Ahh, well, I guess this is more like 5mm. It was ...   Jun 12 2025, 02:51 PM
chmillman   I'm tired of my bone-shaking Bilsteins... Rea...   Nov 1 2025, 12:06 PM
mepstein   I'm tired of my bone-shaking Bilsteins... Re...   Nov 1 2025, 12:34 PM
chmillman   Well, the car has had a 5 bolt conversion. So tho...   Nov 1 2025, 02:59 PM
mepstein   Well, the car has had a 5 bolt conversion. So th...   Nov 1 2025, 05:05 PM
chmillman   How was the conversion done. With redrilled rotor...   Nov 2 2025, 12:53 AM
wonkipop   How was the conversion done. With redrilled roto...   Nov 2 2025, 11:40 AM
chmillman   i have a vague recollection the originals were i...   Nov 2 2025, 02:24 PM
wonkipop   i have a vague recollection the originals were ...   Nov 2 2025, 05:08 PM
wonkipop   explanation? you get what you pay for. (most tim...   Nov 2 2025, 12:50 AM
mepstein   If the struts have been switched out, you need to ...   Nov 2 2025, 06:14 AM
chmillman   If the struts have been switched out, you need to...   Nov 2 2025, 10:25 AM
chmillman   If the struts have been switched out, you need to...   Nov 3 2025, 05:46 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='mepstein' post='3231015' date='Nov 2...   Nov 3 2025, 06:04 AM
mepstein   It looks like the strut uses an early pinch bolt (...   Nov 2 2025, 11:20 AM
chmillman   I could be wrong but the 914-4 rear sway bars we...   Nov 3 2025, 06:16 AM
wonkipop   I could be wrong but the 914-4 rear sway bars w...   Nov 3 2025, 06:32 AM
Superhawk996   Someone suggested I just replace the front bar, t...   Nov 3 2025, 08:39 AM
chmillman   While adding front bar stiffness will help contr...   Nov 3 2025, 11:04 AM
emerygt350   If it makes any difference, I have been enjoying a...   Nov 2 2025, 07:39 PM
carr914   @Paragon Jason can answer all your question. He ...   Nov 2 2025, 08:04 PM
mepstein   Are the arms on the strut that secure the ball joi...   Nov 3 2025, 06:04 AM
wonkipop   @chmillman part numbers for front struts. yo...   Nov 3 2025, 11:14 AM
chmillman   your struts have correct numbers for a 74 Well...   Nov 3 2025, 11:55 AM
wonkipop   @chmillman interesting. i see what you are say...   Nov 3 2025, 03:22 PM


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