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| ctc911ctc |
Oct 9 2025, 07:43 AM
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1970 - 914-6 All stock
Got the car off the rack after a 1 year clean up documented here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...3371&st=100 - tightened the lugs, check one more time for leaks....... Car started first try, backed out of the driveway and went around the block Drive strong.....very strong...... #2 cyl-carb is still 'spitting' definitely not backfiring. Chasing this through my trusty guide: https://www.performanceoriented.com/special-procedures-1 See "notes" section Seems that when I performed the Lean Best Idle procedure #2 failed during the procedure......the diagnosis within the document states that either the path in that carb #2 is blocked or the jet is the wrong size - my bet is a clog......though the carbs were very clean when I got the car. There is a little noise from the right side, that in a 914-2L 4Cyl would be considered quiet, my hope is that it is not valve noise and may be exhaust leaking......did I tighten the heater manifold small nuts????? dry.gif Carb advice sought from those that have chased a SPITTING Carb |
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| Ninja |
Dec 15 2025, 04:02 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 323 Joined: 25-September 25 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 29,004 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Just re-read thread. You're stock so the original stuff should work fine.
The issue seems to have changed too. Thread started out with popping through the carbs and most of the replies were spot on for diagnosing that. Backfire through carbs is caused by fire getting past intake valve and igniting the fuel in the venturi. It is more commonly a valve issue rather than a carb issue. Significant timing screw up might cause it as well, but the puppy would NEVER run properly. Often, I'll see ITB carb setups with a "dirty" barrel and it's always the engine that did it... You compression test looks GREAT, very close to each other. Your leak down test numbers makes no sense to me but it may be my unfamiliarity with your equipment. The leak down testers I've used have two gauges, the first for inlet and the second for what remains in the cylinder. Most have standard couplers and an air tip (blow gun) can be plugged into it. Blow gun not running should show 100% retention. Blow gun depressed will show a low number 20-30%. It will NEVER show zero so they are not as accurate as the technician would want. Normal leak downs are shown as a percentage. As every gauge I've ever used had an initial setting of 100psi the numbers made sense. I'm not sure what your numbers mean but they DO show loss. The Hawk's suggestion about finding out exactly where it's leaking are excellent. My first 914 (a ratty 70 1.7L) would throw fireballs ten feet above the car on cold start then run like hammered shit for the first 30 seconds. It was set up with the center mounted progressive 2 bbl. (the set up everyone hates). This reduced performance but was very reliable and easy for beginners to understand/work on. The hard starting/fireball BS was so bad it burned up a couple of air filters before I left the filter and engine cover off. I set a friend's tree on fire one memorable night... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ninja.gif) I was 17 and didn't know then what I do now... I'm positive I had poorly sealing intake valves that required heat before their sealing properties improved. I traded that car off for my first 240Z (a straight trade 1983) and have always had a Z car since. Look closely at the engine before damming the carbs. Do a leak down on all cylinders the next time you have the carbs off. Spray a little WD/40 in the intake ports before each test. All will leak a little (small bubbles). When the leak down blows the WD out of the port you've found your puppy! |
ctc911ctc SPITTING CARB - 914-6 all stock Oct 9 2025, 07:43 AM
Superhawk996 Unclear on the question here?
You need to resolv... Oct 9 2025, 08:41 AM
ctc911ctc Thank you for the reply SH,
I was more or less lo... Oct 9 2025, 09:34 AM
slivel
Thank you for the reply SH,
I was more or less l... Oct 9 2025, 10:07 AM
Superhawk996 Anytime carbs are apart it’s good standard pract... Oct 9 2025, 09:57 AM
infraredcalvin
Goes without saying - make sure valves are adjust... Oct 9 2025, 11:15 AM
ctc911ctc This is the exact guidance I was looking for, than... Oct 9 2025, 10:42 AM
ctc911ctc Less than 1 hour of run time between now and this ... Oct 9 2025, 11:19 AM
Superhawk996
Less than 1 hour of run time between now and this... Oct 9 2025, 11:46 AM
ctc911ctc Understood - good solid engineering exercise......... Oct 9 2025, 12:49 PM
930cabman weak/broken valve spring?
or some other issue wi... Oct 9 2025, 12:49 PM
ctc911ctc UPDATE!!!!!!!
Teener... Dec 13 2025, 02:28 PM
Cairo94507 I remember the 6's I've had that still has... Dec 13 2025, 03:41 PM
rgalla9146 I just started (6pm) my dead stock 6 after it sat... Dec 13 2025, 06:47 PM
fixer34
I just started (6pm) my dead stock 6 after it sa... Dec 14 2025, 07:58 AM
mate914
I just started (6pm) my dead stock 6 after it s... Dec 14 2025, 08:05 AM
930cabman Guess I'm lucky to have a 914/6 conversion and... Dec 14 2025, 10:16 AM
brant Measure the volume from the accelerator pump diagr... Dec 14 2025, 10:36 AM
gereed75 Agree with everything here except one thing- the h... Dec 14 2025, 11:18 AM
930cabman
Agree with everything here except one thing- the ... Dec 14 2025, 04:35 PM
ctc911ctc Thank you all teeners for the replies, here are so... Dec 14 2025, 08:24 PM
930cabman Idle passageways plugged? drill/grind away the lea... Dec 15 2025, 02:00 PM
ctc911ctc
Idle passageways plugged? drill/grind away the le... Dec 15 2025, 02:51 PM
930cabman
Idle passageways plugged? drill/grind away the l... Dec 15 2025, 02:57 PM
Ninja Not hard to flush the circuits but if the critter ... Dec 15 2025, 03:06 PM
930cabman
Not hard to flush the circuits but if the critter... Dec 16 2025, 05:53 PM
ctc911ctc Great notes Ninja, comments added within
Not h... Dec 16 2025, 07:38 PM
Ninja Double post gremlin got me again! Dec 15 2025, 04:02 PM
ctc911ctc Hi,
I came back to this car after a few major tri... Feb 14 2026, 11:41 AM
porschetub
Hi,
I came back to this car after a few major tr... Feb 14 2026, 11:25 PM

ctc911ctc
Are those plugs any good they look old to me ? se... Feb 15 2026, 03:01 PM
Superhawk996
here are the plugs – the 1,2,3 plugs look goo... Feb 15 2026, 12:07 AM
Ninja Clean plugs, check float levels, run again.
If al... Feb 14 2026, 02:01 PM
ctc911ctc Thank you EVERYONE for contribution - this has bee... Feb 15 2026, 02:37 PM
ctc911ctc bump - Feb 15 2026, 02:50 PM
Superhawk996 Fuel pressure isn’t going to be the problem lead... Feb 15 2026, 02:54 PM
ctc911ctc Superhawk - as always you come through.
Soo, I sh... Feb 15 2026, 02:59 PM
930cabman
Superhawk - as always you come through.
Soo, I s... Feb 16 2026, 05:57 AM
Superhawk996 There is one plug in there that doesn’t look “... Feb 15 2026, 03:36 PM
rgalla9146 Don't trust the marking on jets.
Get a jet ... Feb 16 2026, 07:01 AM
ctc911ctc *******UPDATE*********
I was getting pretty frust... Apr 4 2026, 09:28 PM
porschetub
*******UPDATE*********
I was getting pretty frus... Apr 5 2026, 12:13 AM
930cabman All is well that ends well. but what could have be... Apr 5 2026, 04:40 AM
brant They need a full high end rebuild. Possibly butte... Apr 6 2026, 10:25 AM
930cabman
They need a full high end rebuild. Possibly butt... Apr 6 2026, 10:40 AM
Superhawk996
They need a full high end rebuild. Possibly butt... Apr 6 2026, 07:58 PM
brant An air leak is unmetered air and effects mixture a... Apr 6 2026, 11:18 AM
ctc911ctc ****UPDATE*****
I have another thread that talks ... Aug 27 2026, 06:05 PM
Superhawk996 :popcorn:
Video looks like you might have gone b... Aug 27 2026, 06:47 PM
ctc911ctc
:popcorn:
Video looks like you might have gone ... Aug 28 2026, 06:42 AM
Superhawk996 if i remove the play will I introduce binding or ... Aug 28 2026, 07:28 AM
rgalla9146 If you hear a clacking noise at idle and it can be... Aug 28 2026, 05:40 AM
ctc911ctc UPDATE
spent an hour
Warmed the engine - still s... Aug 28 2026, 02:24 PM
Superhawk996
I need to fix cyl 2 and 3 on the carb
:agre... Aug 28 2026, 09:11 PM
ctc911ctc On my way to buy carb cleaner now -
Question - s... Aug 29 2026, 07:03 AM
brant Spray carb cleaner on the loose idle shafts
If th... Aug 28 2026, 04:26 PM
ctc911ctc ******NEW INFORMATION********
So, where we last l... Sep 7 2026, 05:28 PM
Superhawk996 27 mm Venturis :wub: these are your best shot at ... Sep 7 2026, 05:46 PM
ctc911ctc Was hoping you would be on line!
I watched ai... Sep 7 2026, 05:58 PM
930cabman :popcorn:
carb popping is not uncommon with thes... Sep 7 2026, 06:21 PM
Superhawk996 I’d bet money the bouncing of the throttle shaft... Sep 7 2026, 06:41 PM
ctc911ctc Tail of 2 sets of carbs
I purchased a car with so... Sep 14 2026, 06:17 PM
ctc911ctc ***UPDATE***
I removed the Starboard carb and swa... Sep 15 2026, 07:57 PM
Superhawk996
neighbors are a bot fussy about 914s and this mag... Sep 15 2026, 08:06 PM
ctc911ctc AAAAaaaannnnnddd the Lemon Tree!
neighbors... Sep 16 2026, 02:26 PM
ctc911ctc OK, making progress,
I put the carbs on the car t... Sep 17 2026, 08:07 AM
brant How is the side to side air meter numbers now? Wit... Sep 17 2026, 08:25 AM
ctc911ctc I synced side to side about 5ish, runs smoother. I... Sep 17 2026, 06:24 PM
ctc911ctc ******UPDATE******
Getting better, still bucking ... Oct 4 2026, 07:19 PM
sixnotfour 3 Half Turns equals 1-1/2 Turns. Oct 4 2026, 08:41 PM
Superhawk996 I’ll go back and read all of Performance Oriente... Oct 5 2026, 12:33 AM
Superhawk996 Page 56 from Weber Tuning Manual
See the highligh... Oct 5 2026, 01:05 AM
Superhawk996 Here’s the cutaway (from IDF guide) that shows y... Oct 5 2026, 01:09 AM
Superhawk996 School of hard knocks stuff going on here but youâ... Oct 5 2026, 01:38 AM
930cabman Crazy as it sounds, I have had luck opening each a... Oct 5 2026, 07:14 AM
ctc911ctc @superhawk - thank you for the detailed reply, VER... Oct 5 2026, 08:08 AM
Superhawk996
Here is my problem - I understand the theory and... Oct 5 2026, 10:04 AM
Superhawk996 Yeah, sorry had I known what you were doing we sho... Oct 5 2026, 09:53 AM
ctc911ctc Lots of travel ahead, may be 10 days for an update Oct 5 2026, 07:16 PM
Superhawk996
Lots of travel ahead, may be 10 days for an updat... Oct 5 2026, 08:16 PM
ctc911ctc ***UPDATE***
I performed the following runs reall... Oct 22 2026, 02:26 PM
Superhawk996
I interpret this as I should in every cylinder b... Oct 22 2026, 03:20 PM
Superhawk996 What happens if you disconnect spark plug wire fro... Oct 22 2026, 03:14 PM
Superhawk996 This whole process of best lean, set idle speed, b... Oct 22 2026, 04:27 PM![]() ![]() |
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