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| robkammer |
Jan 9 2026, 01:38 PM
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Robbo ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 255 Joined: 7-January 21 From: Vermilion Ohio Member No.: 25,049 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
All: Started this morning to get the BB's few quirks figured out while it's still winter. Last year the car ran great, but it had trouble staying running for the first 5 miles or so. Cold start no problems, let it sit and idle for 5 minutes, ls no problem. Once underway, as soon as I let off the pedal, it would want to stall. I was able to get through it by using the hand brake, but that's a pain.
I know I have a bad vacuum valve that is supposed to shut the throttle body down on decel, but I've just plugged it and left it place. If it's not plugged, the open vacuum takes the idle way too high. It's been like that for two years, but not for long if I can find a new one. The AAR is working but I'm not certain about the Thermotine sender. I'm sure Jeff B or someone smarter than me has the specs to bench test one. If anyone has suggestions on what might be the problem here, I'm open to all suggestions. Cheers! Rob Attached thumbnail(s) |
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| robkammer |
Jan 21 2026, 09:07 AM
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Robbo ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 255 Joined: 7-January 21 From: Vermilion Ohio Member No.: 25,049 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Update on the BB. Granted, my ramblings may seem disjointed, but today I think it's called ADD. Here's where I am at this point:
Just received a nice decel valve from Ebay, tests good Thought I found a good Thermo sender on Ebay but it tested NG, as does mine. The plenum temp sensor tests fine. The Head sensor is puzzling to me. It tests at 5 ohms at room temp, disconnected. 68 degrees F. The lead wire shows 12 volts with the key on. What I can't wrap my head around is how this sending unit send info through the hot wire that is the only connection other than ground. It seems to me that when connected there would be a direct short, but the car ran fine with it connected. I'm going to search for a working Thermotime before putting it back together. Any suggestions on a source would be appreciated. I reached out the the good DR. but have not heard back Cheers! |
| pbanders |
Jan 21 2026, 11:46 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 989 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 805 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Just received a nice decel valve from Ebay, tests good Remember, when you connect it, that the 5 mm port connects to the intake manifold (vacuum), the opposite/end port also connects to the intake manifold, and the side port connects to the air box (atmospheric pressure). Some of the hose diagrams are wrong, this is the correct way to connect it, otherwise, it won't work. It should limit the manifold vacuum to about 18 in. Hg. QUOTE Thought I found a good Thermo sender on Ebay but it tested NG, as does mine. What are the part numbers on the thermo sensors you have? This sensor is open for all temperatures above 32 F and closed for all temperatures below. The CSV is provided +12V during cranking on one terminal, the thermo sensor provides ground to the other terminal of the CSV when it's closed. QUOTE The plenum temp sensor tests fine. The Head sensor is puzzling to me. It tests at 5 ohms at room temp, disconnected. 68 degrees F. The lead wire shows 12 volts with the key on. What I can't wrap my head around is how this sending unit send info through the hot wire that is the only connection other than ground. It seems to me that when connected there would be a direct short, but the car ran fine with it connected. If the head temperature sensor tests at 5 ohms 68 F, it's no good. Should test at 2.5K ohm at that temperature. I suggest you test it again, possibly with a different multimeter to be sure. See ECU Schematic Page 2 and Cylinder Temperature Compensation to understand how the head temperature sensor works in the system with the ECU to adjust the mixture. |
robkammer Winter D jet tinkering Jan 9 2026, 01:38 PM
brant Test your CHT.
It could be failing when fully wa... Jan 9 2026, 03:33 PM
FlacaProductions Fuel hose kink that after it gets going, collapses... Jan 9 2026, 03:34 PM
emerygt350 This sounds like a bad aar Jan 9 2026, 06:19 PM
rjames
This sounds like a bad aar
If it was a bad AAR ... Jan 9 2026, 08:46 PM
emerygt350 If it's gone, but it can be a slow death with ... Jan 10 2026, 05:58 AM
emerygt350 And I have no idea what a "thermotine sender... Jan 10 2026, 05:59 AM
bdstone914 @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 10 2026, 07:46 AM
bdstone914 Duplicate Jan 10 2026, 07:47 AM
robkammer Thanks for the replies. The AAR is functioning wel... Jan 10 2026, 07:22 AM
emerygt350 Perhaps you have something miswired? The AAR is f... Jan 10 2026, 07:36 AM
sechszylinder It is difficult to determine from a distance becau... Jan 10 2026, 08:47 AM
pbanders
It is difficult to determine from a distance beca... Jan 10 2026, 08:42 PM
robkammer Thanks fellas, all good info. My mistake, Thermo t... Jan 10 2026, 10:38 AM
sechszylinder
Does the CHT sensor control the AAR?
no defini... Jan 10 2026, 11:01 AM
robkammer Thanks Benno! That makes sense, hot all the t... Jan 10 2026, 02:37 PM
JeffBowlsby The TTS is a temperature dependent sensor, it only... Jan 10 2026, 04:34 PM
Superhawk996
The TTS is a temperature dependent sensor, it onl... Jan 10 2026, 08:49 PM
robkammer
The TTS is a temperature dependent sensor, it onl... Jan 11 2026, 10:23 AM
Superhawk996
It seems to me that both, or all of the sensors, ... Jan 11 2026, 11:15 AM
JeffBowlsby Of course… :gerflag: :agree: :thumbsup: what w... Jan 10 2026, 08:56 PM
wonkipop
Once underway, as soon as I let off the pedal, it... Jan 11 2026, 01:18 AM
robkammer
Once underway, as soon as I let off the pedal, i... Jan 14 2026, 10:00 AM
Superhawk996 Haynes and factory service manual wiring diagrams ... Jan 11 2026, 11:05 AM
Superhawk996 If you keep all information in one thread it will ... Jan 11 2026, 11:25 AM
robkammer Thanks Jeff, Wonki and Superhawk. I spent quite so... Jan 11 2026, 02:14 PM
pbanders
Thanks Jeff, Wonki and Superhawk. I spent quite s... Jan 14 2026, 12:23 PM
rjames Cold start no problems, let it sit and idle for 5 ... Jan 11 2026, 02:51 PM
pbanders
Cold start no problems, let it sit and idle for 5... Jan 14 2026, 12:37 PM
robkammer Hey all, from the frigid North: My plan is to star... Jan 15 2026, 11:06 AM
robkammer Hey Teeners! Hope your weekend is warmer than ... Jan 17 2026, 03:42 PM
pbanders
Hey Teeners! Hope your weekend is warmer than... Jan 21 2026, 12:14 PM
robkammer
Hey Teeners! Hope your weekend is warmer tha... Jan 21 2026, 03:22 PM
pbanders
Brad: Thanks for the follow up. The sensor part n... Jan 21 2026, 03:31 PM
JeffBowlsby Recall that some of the original factory TS may ha... Jan 21 2026, 04:22 PM
pbanders
Recall that some of the original factory TS may h... Jan 21 2026, 05:50 PM
robkammer Thanks Brad: I found one on Ebay, won'y know i... Jan 22 2026, 08:24 AM
brant That’s why earlier in the thread people said to ... Jan 22 2026, 09:26 AM
pbanders
That’s why earlier in the thread people said to... Jan 22 2026, 11:20 AM![]() ![]() |
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