Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Winter D jet tinkering, Are parts still available?
robkammer
post Jan 9 2026, 01:38 PM
Post #1


Robbo
**

Group: Members
Posts: 255
Joined: 7-January 21
From: Vermilion Ohio
Member No.: 25,049
Region Association: NineFourteenerVille



All: Started this morning to get the BB's few quirks figured out while it's still winter. Last year the car ran great, but it had trouble staying running for the first 5 miles or so. Cold start no problems, let it sit and idle for 5 minutes, ls no problem. Once underway, as soon as I let off the pedal, it would want to stall. I was able to get through it by using the hand brake, but that's a pain.
I know I have a bad vacuum valve that is supposed to shut the throttle body down on decel, but I've just plugged it and left it place. If it's not plugged, the open vacuum takes the idle way too high. It's been like that for two years, but not for long if I can find a new one.
The AAR is working but I'm not certain about the Thermotine sender. I'm sure Jeff B or someone smarter than me has the specs to bench test one.
If anyone has suggestions on what might be the problem here, I'm open to all suggestions.
Cheers!
Rob


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
robkammer
post Jan 17 2026, 03:42 PM
Post #2


Robbo
**

Group: Members
Posts: 255
Joined: 7-January 21
From: Vermilion Ohio
Member No.: 25,049
Region Association: NineFourteenerVille



Hey Teeners! Hope your weekend is warmer than ours. As I poke through the EFI, I find that the TPS is fine, a nice surprise that it is a new Bosch unit installed in 04, only 7k miles ago. Somewhere I found the test spec for the Thermotime to be at 300 ohms at 65degrees F.
My reading are 8 ohms with the sensor connected or not, and with the key on or off. should I start looking for a replacement? What other options are there if that particular part number is not available.
Rob
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
pbanders
post Jan 21 2026, 12:14 PM
Post #3


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 989
Joined: 11-June 03
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Member No.: 805
Region Association: Southwest Region



QUOTE(robkammer @ Jan 17 2026, 02:42 PM) *

Hey Teeners! Hope your weekend is warmer than ours. As I poke through the EFI, I find that the TPS is fine, a nice surprise that it is a new Bosch unit installed in 04, only 7k miles ago. Somewhere I found the test spec for the Thermotime to be at 300 ohms at 65degrees F.

This is not correct. The thermo sensor should test as a short for temperatures below 32 F, and an open for temperatures above. You can only test the sensor with the connection to the CSV unplugged. Also, is your sensor a thermo sensor (p/n's 311 906 161 A and 311 906 161 C) or is it a thermo-time sensor (p/n 022 906 163 A)? The thermo-time switch has a timer that enables it only for between 5 and 20 seconds of cranking.
QUOTE

My reading are 8 ohms with the sensor connected or not, and with the key on or off. should I start looking for a replacement? What other options are there if that particular part number is not available.
Rob


OK, I've edited this part about 10 times so far, finding I was wrong every time I tried explaining what's going on with a thermo-time switch. Not having access to one doesn't help. I'm going to come back here later when I'm 100% certain of how it works and describe it. Wish me luck.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
robkammer   Winter D jet tinkering   Jan 9 2026, 01:38 PM
brant   Test your CHT. It could be failing when fully wa...   Jan 9 2026, 03:33 PM
FlacaProductions   Fuel hose kink that after it gets going, collapses...   Jan 9 2026, 03:34 PM
emerygt350   This sounds like a bad aar   Jan 9 2026, 06:19 PM
rjames   This sounds like a bad aar If it was a bad AAR ...   Jan 9 2026, 08:46 PM
emerygt350   If it's gone, but it can be a slow death with ...   Jan 10 2026, 05:58 AM
emerygt350   And I have no idea what a "thermotine sender...   Jan 10 2026, 05:59 AM
bdstone914   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Jan 10 2026, 07:46 AM
bdstone914   Duplicate   Jan 10 2026, 07:47 AM
robkammer   Thanks for the replies. The AAR is functioning wel...   Jan 10 2026, 07:22 AM
emerygt350   Perhaps you have something miswired? The AAR is f...   Jan 10 2026, 07:36 AM
sechszylinder   It is difficult to determine from a distance becau...   Jan 10 2026, 08:47 AM
pbanders   It is difficult to determine from a distance beca...   Jan 10 2026, 08:42 PM
robkammer   Thanks fellas, all good info. My mistake, Thermo t...   Jan 10 2026, 10:38 AM
sechszylinder   Does the CHT sensor control the AAR? no defini...   Jan 10 2026, 11:01 AM
robkammer   Thanks Benno! That makes sense, hot all the t...   Jan 10 2026, 02:37 PM
JeffBowlsby   The TTS is a temperature dependent sensor, it only...   Jan 10 2026, 04:34 PM
Superhawk996   The TTS is a temperature dependent sensor, it onl...   Jan 10 2026, 08:49 PM
robkammer   The TTS is a temperature dependent sensor, it onl...   Jan 11 2026, 10:23 AM
Superhawk996   It seems to me that both, or all of the sensors, ...   Jan 11 2026, 11:15 AM
JeffBowlsby   Of course… :gerflag: :agree: :thumbsup: what w...   Jan 10 2026, 08:56 PM
wonkipop   Once underway, as soon as I let off the pedal, it...   Jan 11 2026, 01:18 AM
robkammer   Once underway, as soon as I let off the pedal, i...   Jan 14 2026, 10:00 AM
Superhawk996   Haynes and factory service manual wiring diagrams ...   Jan 11 2026, 11:05 AM
Superhawk996   If you keep all information in one thread it will ...   Jan 11 2026, 11:25 AM
robkammer   Thanks Jeff, Wonki and Superhawk. I spent quite so...   Jan 11 2026, 02:14 PM
pbanders   Thanks Jeff, Wonki and Superhawk. I spent quite s...   Jan 14 2026, 12:23 PM
rjames   Cold start no problems, let it sit and idle for 5 ...   Jan 11 2026, 02:51 PM
pbanders   Cold start no problems, let it sit and idle for 5...   Jan 14 2026, 12:37 PM
robkammer   Hey all, from the frigid North: My plan is to star...   Jan 15 2026, 11:06 AM
robkammer   Hey Teeners! Hope your weekend is warmer than ...   Jan 17 2026, 03:42 PM
pbanders   Hey Teeners! Hope your weekend is warmer than...   Jan 21 2026, 12:14 PM
robkammer   Hey Teeners! Hope your weekend is warmer tha...   Jan 21 2026, 03:22 PM
pbanders   Brad: Thanks for the follow up. The sensor part n...   Jan 21 2026, 03:31 PM
robkammer   Update on the BB. Granted, my ramblings may seem d...   Jan 21 2026, 09:07 AM
pbanders   Just received a nice decel valve from Ebay, tests...   Jan 21 2026, 11:46 AM
JeffBowlsby   Recall that some of the original factory TS may ha...   Jan 21 2026, 04:22 PM
pbanders   Recall that some of the original factory TS may h...   Jan 21 2026, 05:50 PM
robkammer   Thanks Brad: I found one on Ebay, won'y know i...   Jan 22 2026, 08:24 AM
brant   That’s why earlier in the thread people said to ...   Jan 22 2026, 09:26 AM
pbanders   That’s why earlier in the thread people said to...   Jan 22 2026, 11:20 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 17th March 2026 - 05:46 PM
...