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> Euro front turn signal bucket position lamp socket contact, Original or hackety-hack hack...?
chmillman
post Feb 2 2026, 02:42 PM
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One for the Euro guys - I know you are relatively few and far between - original spec US cars have full yellow front TS lenses, Euro cars have a small white (clear) portion at the bottom which is a "position lamp" - or parking light. Goes on with the taillights in the first position. Equipped with a 5W BA15s based bulb (R5W).

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So, I was thinking of adapting these to become DRL's. I found a few LED's with a BA15s base which claim to have up to 500-600 lumens or more. Same 5 watt draw, but LEDs. So I pulled the lenses off in order to measure how much clearance there is between the bulb and the lens - it's about 10-12mm - the LED's are a bit longer than the standard bulbs, but should still fit. Then I pulled one of the bulbs out to just see what the socket looks like... tried to at least, the bulb would not budge. So I finally pulled out the whole little assembly (held on by 2 screws) and realised that the bulb base was just stuck in there by some oxidation. In getting the bulb loose, the bottom (center) contact came out. And it looks very odd.

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To me this looks like something someone hacked together from two uninsulated spade connectors which then just got jammed into the slot. The funny thing is that both left and right sides have the same thing...

I went looking to see if there was a replacement part for the socket and the parts diagram doesn't show anything separate other than the bulb - which makes me feel that if a socket went bad, one had to basically replace the entire TS bucket. So maybe someone hacked the solution above together in order to avoid this - the buckets themselves are actually in pretty good condition.

I'm not at all fond of the current solution - if the contact attached to the wire falls out and contacts the bucket body, I'll have a short. So even if the DRL project doesn't work out, I am now wanting to replace the sockets. I may need to try to adapt something like the following:

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However, there's not all that much depth there behind the base, maybe 30mm max. Have to get a couple and see if they might fit.

So basically the question I wanted to ask is - has anyone gone through the same thing with their Euro-spec TS buckets? TIA.
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post Feb 2 2026, 04:01 PM
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you are correct about having to buy the entire bucket.

i have both the USA parts catalogue and the ROW catalogue.
as is often the case in the PET catalogues they use the same diagrams and often this means the USA catalogue has a misleading diagram esp on more common parts.

but there are three parts listings.

general ROW bucket (except italy) = PCG 631 401 10
italy = 914 631 401 12
USA = 914 631 401 11

small divider for ROW is not listed as a separate part.

to me the one you have looks stock in every way.
except maybe that spade connection. but i have not seen a euro bucket for a long time.
it was 30 years ago and i cannot remember. it was on a J spec car. but it looks right when you view the image of the unit in the factory workshop manual. but they do not have a detail where that divider holder is disconnected from the bucket.

i do have USA spec entire indicator sidelight units i got 20 years ago and no divider/bulb holder in there. but it seems its a universal bucket they fitted the additional divider into for ROW. but i'd have to see one in the flesh to know for sure.

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