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> Starting Problems, Starting with Throttle but Won't Idle
nmkimosabe
post Jul 31 2026, 04:18 PM
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My 1974 1.8 with fuel injection will only start by manually opening the throttle but I can't get it idle and thus run properly. I recently had the AFM rebuilt and replaced the points, plugs, condenser and replaced the CHT sensor but the problem continues as it did before. I've looked for vacuum leaks to no avail with starter fluid. I now seek the expertise of the members of this forum for additional suggestions.
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post Aug 10 2026, 03:30 PM
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Congratulations on getting it to start and idle. The struggle with 1.8 and vacuum leaks can be a pain. a 60.00 smoke machine is completely worth the investment.

I'm trying to figure out how you found leaks down at the valve covers!!?

One area that plagued me for a bit was that my Auxiliary Air Valve wasn't sealing all the way once the car was warmed up, causing the idle to hang a bit. My deceleration valve was also not fully closing causing extra air to get pulled back into the system... and again... high idle. Those two items are the opposite of what you are getting.

Keep after it! it sounds like you are close.

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post Aug 11 2026, 05:25 AM
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QUOTE(TRP @ Aug 10 2026, 03:30 PM) *

Congratulations on getting it to start and idle. The struggle with 1.8 and vacuum leaks can be a pain. a 60.00 smoke machine is completely worth the investment.

I'm trying to figure out how you found leaks down at the valve covers!!?

One area that plagued me for a bit was that my Auxiliary Air Valve wasn't sealing all the way once the car was warmed up, causing the idle to hang a bit. My deceleration valve was also not fully closing causing extra air to get pulled back into the system... and again... high idle. Those two items are the opposite of what you are getting.

Keep after it! it sounds like you are close.

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yeah.

but i don't call open AAVs or open decel valves vac leaks.
i call em throttle assist valves. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) thats basically what they are when they misbehave. throttle openings on the sly that activate the AFM flap. because they are piped such that they are between the AFM and the throttle plate.

anything else thats pulling in air after the throttle body is a true vac leak in an L jet.
and usually they won't idle at all and if they do very badly. and probably won't really like to run at all eiher. they can't tolerate any significant air leaks after the throttle plate.

the throttle bodies can leak too around the pivot axle points.
but a smoke test would pick that up.
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nmkimosabe   Starting Problems   Jul 31 2026, 04:18 PM
rfinegan   get a smoker from amazon, cheep and multi purpose....   Jul 31 2026, 04:23 PM
nmkimosabe   get a smoker from amazon, cheep and multi purpose...   Aug 1 2026, 11:51 AM
fiacra   I'm going to add a few more things I know abou...   Aug 1 2026, 01:32 PM
fiacra   :popcorn:   Aug 6 2026, 10:29 AM
rfinegan   It is running now with new ignition parts and base...   Aug 6 2026, 11:10 AM
nmkimosabe   It is running now with new ignition parts and bas...   Aug 10 2026, 12:03 PM
TRP   Congratulations on getting it to start and idle. T...   Aug 10 2026, 03:30 PM
nmkimosabe   Congratulations on getting it to start and idle. ...   Aug 10 2026, 09:20 PM
TRP   Congratulations on getting it to start and idle....   Aug 10 2026, 11:36 PM
wonkipop   Congratulations on getting it to start and idle....   Aug 11 2026, 05:07 AM
nmkimosabe   [quote name='nmkimosabe' post='3268296' date='Aug...   Aug 11 2026, 08:54 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='nmkimosabe' post='3268296' date='Au...   Aug 11 2026, 06:01 PM
nmkimosabe   [quote name='nmkimosabe' post='3268355' date='Aug...   Aug 24 2026, 02:23 PM
Artfrombama   I too have a 74 1.8 with FI I was having a similar...   Aug 24 2026, 02:51 PM
wonkipop   Congratulations on getting it to start and idle. ...   Aug 11 2026, 05:25 AM
nmkimosabe   Thanks for the advice and I will double check that...   Aug 26 2026, 09:32 AM
Superhawk996   Find a new mechanic that actually understands thes...   Aug 26 2026, 12:56 PM
wonkipop   Find a new mechanic that actually understands the...   Aug 26 2026, 03:19 PM
wonkipop   as i recall @nmkimosabe - you sent me a PM telli...   Aug 26 2026, 03:47 PM
nmkimosabe   I will try to clarify the status and progress to d...   Aug 27 2026, 06:13 PM
Superhawk996   Given you had a worn distributor is there a reason...   Aug 27 2026, 07:08 PM
nmkimosabe   Given you had a worn distributor is there a reaso...   Aug 28 2026, 04:26 PM
wonkipop   Given you had a worn distributor is there a reas...   Aug 29 2026, 05:06 AM
nmkimosabe   [quote name='nmkimosabe' post='3269962' date='Aug...   Aug 29 2026, 12:02 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3270009...   Aug 29 2026, 02:07 PM
fiacra   I can't believe this saga took yet another tur...   Aug 27 2026, 09:01 PM
nmkimosabe   I can't believe this saga took yet another tu...   Aug 28 2026, 04:27 PM
fiacra   It's funny how things always seem to circle ba...   Aug 29 2026, 07:54 AM
nmkimosabe   It's funny how things always seem to circle b...   Aug 29 2026, 12:06 PM
nmkimosabe   It was suggested to me today by a person with seve...   Sep 5 2026, 05:34 PM
wonkipop   It was suggested to me today by a person with sev...   Sep 6 2026, 07:49 PM
nmkimosabe   [quote name='nmkimosabe' post='3270852' date='Sep...   Sep 7 2026, 03:37 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='nmkimosabe' post='3270852' date='Se...   Sep 7 2026, 05:09 PM
nmkimosabe   [quote name='nmkimosabe' post='3271003' date='Sep...   Sep 8 2026, 12:35 PM
Superhawk996   Not likely. Can be measured if you really wanted...   Sep 5 2026, 08:41 PM
nmkimosabe   Not likely. Can be measured if you really wante...   Sep 6 2026, 05:19 PM
wonkipop   @nmkimosabe situation re servicing /parts etc fo...   Sep 8 2026, 01:00 PM
nmkimosabe   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Sep 9 2026, 11:03 AM
wonkipop   @nmkimosabe re 87 alfa romeo spider. thats a co...   Sep 9 2026, 01:12 PM
nmkimosabe   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Sep 9 2026, 04:16 PM
wonkipop   @nmkimosabe some other tips for you re your 1.8 ...   Sep 9 2026, 01:28 PM
nmkimosabe   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Sep 15 2026, 04:37 PM
Superhawk996   Here is the curve for CHT sensor - you will have a...   Sep 15 2026, 07:28 PM


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