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> COULD IT BE DONE TO A 914, PORSCHE VW
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QUOTE (Paul Illick @ Feb 23 2005, 07:07 PM)
QUOTE (Steve @ Feb 23 2005, 02:20 PM)

I love bugs but there only good for 1/4 mile drag strips and total sleepers on the avenue.
I love to hang corners, auto cross etc.
When I see a bug get top time of day at an autocross or willow springs I might look into investing my money in one.

Actually the bug in the photos at the top of the thread was made with handling in mind, and when bugs are set up they can be more than respectable. Don't forget the early bugs only weighed 1600 pounds, and those supers, when they have 951 suspension and brakes, handle a heck of a lot better than most 911's. As for racing at Willow Springs (actually Streets of Willow) it's been done. Check this out:

http://www.vwtrendsweb.com/features/0112vwt_gforce/

That wasn't an autocross, but van Wettering's red bug was built at Bugformance in San Jose and holds class records nearly everywhere it's been raced, TTOD at some. If I recall correctly it came in second overall in that G-Force Challenge, beating, among other cars, a pretty nice 914. Granted Jack's bug is more of a race car than the nice street bug in the photos that started the thread.

Jake's right about the pleasure of a fast bug that can embarass owners who simply can't admit that their car could be thrashed by an old VW. There's a lot of satisfaction in that. It may be perverted satisfacton, but hey. And if you think it couldn't happen to you, well...

And Toast, disliking the car you were in because somebody else hit it? What exactly does that have to do with anything?

That article does not mention the skid pad ratings or that it even beat the 914.
That article also does not mention any actual track times at willow springs or any other track.
We can compare them to Otto's 914GT track time at Willow.
We can also compare those records to the 911's that it supposedly beat.

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V6914   COULD IT BE DONE TO A 914   Feb 23 2005, 02:05 AM
V6914   PIC2   Feb 23 2005, 02:05 AM
V6914   PIC3   Feb 23 2005, 02:06 AM
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mattillac   WHY? http://www.914world.com/bbs...   Feb 23 2005, 02:08 AM
V6914   PIC6   Feb 23 2005, 02:08 AM
V6914   LAST   Feb 23 2005, 02:08 AM
mattillac   and why a super beatle? http://...   Feb 23 2005, 02:11 AM
V6914   Could the 944 arms provide more wheel, brake and s...   Feb 23 2005, 02:16 AM
McMark   Sure. $.   Feb 23 2005, 02:18 AM
Bleyseng   We start off with most of most pieces...or you can...   Feb 23 2005, 05:35 AM
Tom Perso   Why not? http://www.914world.com/...   Feb 23 2005, 06:54 AM
TC/914   "and why a super beatle?http://...   Feb 23 2005, 08:03 AM
9146986   I guess I'm with the why do it to a beetle gro...   Feb 23 2005, 08:30 AM
Jake Raby   I have customers all over the world doing this.......   Feb 23 2005, 08:37 AM
!   We don't bitch....we're thrifty....   Feb 23 2005, 09:06 AM
Mueller   minor detail you are overlooking.......the trailin...   Feb 23 2005, 10:07 AM
nebreitling   i like it, nothing too crazy or special, but a nic...   Feb 23 2005, 10:17 AM
Jake Raby   You have obviously never went through the gears in...   Feb 23 2005, 10:23 AM
neo914-6   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Feb 23 2005, 10:51 AM
Series9   I've got the brakes:   Feb 23 2005, 11:08 AM
Jake Raby   SWEET!   Feb 23 2005, 11:19 AM
pete-stevers   I kinda don't mind the beetles... my first car...   Feb 23 2005, 11:21 AM
mattillac   i don't mind a tricked out beetle. but not a s...   Feb 23 2005, 12:13 PM
Series9   http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Feb 23 2005, 12:30 PM
dinomium     Feb 23 2005, 12:50 PM
Jake Raby   Toast, You must really want your ass "toasted"... ...   Feb 23 2005, 12:51 PM
Flat VW   It is a flat VW. http://www....   Feb 23 2005, 01:07 PM
Rhodes71/914   Hey Toast check out my Avatar <-<-<--------------...   Feb 23 2005, 01:25 PM
solex   This is my first foray into Porsche, my list of be...   Feb 23 2005, 02:24 PM
Toast   Look guys, I know the association between VW and P...   Feb 23 2005, 02:30 PM
Toast   And yes, there was sarcasm in my post. Except for...   Feb 23 2005, 02:33 PM
pete-stevers   better sell that fourteen....it is a vw.....think ...   Feb 23 2005, 02:39 PM
Reiche   I am sorry for your pain and losses Toast. Those k...   Feb 23 2005, 02:40 PM
Toast   http://www.914world.com/bbs...   Feb 23 2005, 04:35 PM
Mark Henry   I feel sorry for your buddy but I don't think ...   Feb 23 2005, 04:47 PM
pete-stevers   exactly... why would you do it TO a 914, when you ...   Feb 23 2005, 05:01 PM
MecGen   Hi People I have had this conversation many times....   Feb 23 2005, 05:35 PM
Air_Cooled_Nut   My $0.02, yes, it's about the "wow" facto...   Feb 23 2005, 08:44 PM
Paul Illick     Feb 23 2005, 09:07 PM
r_towle   The 944 suspension is a direct copy of the superbe...   Feb 23 2005, 09:27 PM
Garland   What else could I say.   Feb 23 2005, 10:30 PM
jeff m   My first job in the early 80s was at so cal import...   Feb 23 2005, 10:54 PM
BigD9146gt   I'll admit thats pretty cool stuff on that car...   Feb 23 2005, 10:59 PM
Steve     Feb 24 2005, 09:52 AM
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