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> 2.7L cis lump or dual webers? Help!, Converting to dash six - need advice
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post Mar 11 2005, 08:29 AM
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Hey all. Who wants to donate their two cents worth on this... I am converting to six cyinder, and I have two engines.... a 2.2T with webers and a 2.7S with CIS.
I thought the CIS would be nice for everyday driving, and would be less troublesome overall, especially if the car sits for a long period of time. However, I heard there are some clearance issues on the rear firewall. Has anyone overcome this? Or would it be better to use the carb setup on the 2.7 and change the cams???? Either way I have pieces left over... and pieces to buy. Thanks. -Kris
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There is a lengthy discussion of CIS 914s on the Pelican BBS. Look for thread "CIS on a 914/6".

If you "just have to have Webers" install the 2.2T(130HP?).
If you want about 40 more HP, and twice the gas milage install the 2.7L, CIS intact.

With gas at $2.50/gallon Webers don't make sense. A friend's 914/6 with 2.7L CIS engine, Webers installed, gets 165 miles/tank of gas. My 914/6 2.4L CIS, CIS installed, gets 300 miles/tank city, 425+ miles/tank highway.

Without changing the cams & pistons, Webers won't deliever more horsepower. Just poor gas miliage and c***py exhaust emissions. Something to consider if you street drive your 914 a lot like I do(12K-15K miles/year). The BAR refferre(sp) commented that my sixer CIS engine was one of the "cleanest" he had ever tested.

> IIRC, the 2.7 CIS motors were rated at 165 hp
Its reasonable to assume that by removing the 911's 2.7L restrictive exhaust (remember thermo reactors?) and using 914/6 tuned length headers, a few extra HP is to be had with just that one bolt on.
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startsw/p   2.7L cis lump or dual webers? Help!   Mar 11 2005, 08:29 AM
iamchappy   I say go with the CIS far less work than keeping t...   Mar 11 2005, 08:52 AM
ArtechnikA   if you had a 2,2S it'd be a hard question, but...   Mar 11 2005, 08:52 AM
Root_Werks   Stick with the CIS if that 2.7 is in decent shape....   Mar 11 2005, 09:15 AM
startsw/p   Thanks a bunch, guys. http:/...   Mar 11 2005, 09:37 AM
seanery   I hate CIS! My 2.7 has webers, E cams, RS Pist...   Mar 11 2005, 09:43 AM
iamchappy   "What's good for devouring 911's?" Answer...   Mar 11 2005, 09:44 AM
Root_Werks   Well, because of the wieght difference in the cars...   Mar 11 2005, 09:53 AM
seanery   IIRC, the 2.7 CIS motors were rated at 165 hp   Mar 11 2005, 10:33 AM
startsw/p   I think I'll try to get it running with the CI...   Mar 11 2005, 10:53 AM
airsix   Sammy, you left out one thing. It's petty, but...   Mar 11 2005, 12:51 PM
startsw/p   But the cost per HP .... is it really worth the bi...   Mar 13 2005, 10:03 AM
trekkor   finish the conversion, with the webers. If it is n...   Mar 13 2005, 10:22 AM
morgan_harwell   There is a lengthy discussion of CIS 914s on the P...   Mar 13 2005, 10:58 AM
Dr Evil   I'll be using my CIS on my 2.7. Dan, how do yo...   Mar 13 2005, 11:37 AM
J P Stein   I was just reading a blurb by B. Anderson in the l...   Mar 13 2005, 11:56 AM
sixnotfour   Depends also on what you do with the car , weekend...   Mar 13 2005, 12:55 PM
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