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> Charging Issue, revisited...., not the Voltage regulator
Aaron Cox
post Apr 16 2005, 12:03 PM
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guys,

im having a heck of a time trying to figure out whats the problem. Gen light came on thursday night on my drive home. i measured voltage goin to the battery as follows:
car off ~13 volts
car idling 14 volts
1500 rpm 15.8 volts BAD

i borrowed a new voltage regulator from bill 'grimstead' and it did not rectify the problem.
all fuses are fine. all connections are solid. the belt is on nice and snug

with the car off, the G light is lit
car idling, it is lit, but very dim....
higher the rpm the less bright the bulb becomes....

now that i have eliminated the voltage reg as a failure mode...
do i have a crapped out alternator?

where is the best place to buy a new alternator?

help me before the WCC... i dont want to blow up my optima....
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post Apr 16 2005, 03:33 PM
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The battery is not a load it acts like a capacitor when the car is running. To effectively test any altenator you have to put a load on it. The factory manual states to test an alternator to hook up a VOM, an ammeter, and a variable resistor. Rev the engine to 1400 or 2200 or 6000 rpm. Change varible resistor till you get apporiate amp reading for rpms used. Then measure voltage. 14000 rpm = 10 amp 2200 rpm = 33 amp 6000 rpm = 50 amp This all assuming you still have stock 50 amp alt. Basic electronics you get a drop in voltage after the resistance. If the problem Aaron has described is what I think it is load testing wont do any good either because I tested mine and it did fine at the appropriate rpm but the light was still a problem till I replaced the brushes. This was on my other 914 I was driving till this one was ready and now that alt is on my 76.
BTW the brushes help power the field. the current goes from the outer windings to the diode trio and to the batt post.

Found this about alternators.


Load testing is a standard practice for testing alternators and batteries. Check any service manual of a car that has an alternator.
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Aaron Cox   Charging Issue, revisited....   Apr 16 2005, 12:03 PM
echocanyons   my alternator was new as was my regulator and I st...   Apr 16 2005, 12:06 PM
skline   I may have a spare alternator here. Have not teste...   Apr 16 2005, 12:07 PM
Aaron Cox   jeff's 2.0 has one on it also.... i figure i...   Apr 16 2005, 12:09 PM
ws91420   Almost sounds like the brushes are going on the al...   Apr 16 2005, 12:10 PM
ws91420   14v is the mean or average voltage that you should...   Apr 16 2005, 12:15 PM
Aaron Cox   <...   Apr 16 2005, 12:17 PM
ws91420   But that is without a load on it. Alt are meant to...   Apr 16 2005, 12:23 PM
Aaron Cox   ok. here is the best question yet..... WHY did my...   Apr 16 2005, 12:26 PM
ws91420   You have two brushes on that ride on the shaft tha...   Apr 16 2005, 12:34 PM
Bleyseng   maybe its a loose fuse....   Apr 16 2005, 12:35 PM
Aaron Cox   welby, you are the man. thanks for helping me wit...   Apr 16 2005, 12:37 PM
Aaron Cox   geoff, i sprung all the contacts and all fuses ar...   Apr 16 2005, 12:38 PM
bondo   <...   Apr 16 2005, 12:38 PM
Aaron Cox   i dont have a sillyscope here.... ...   Apr 16 2005, 12:43 PM
ws91420   The reading Aaron is getting is false because he d...   Apr 16 2005, 12:46 PM
brp914   imho alternators dont go bad by generating excess ...   Apr 16 2005, 12:48 PM
ws91420   Mine with the bad brushes put out good too at high...   Apr 16 2005, 12:49 PM
Bleyseng   Does the lite get brighter as you add load to it? ...   Apr 16 2005, 12:49 PM
Aaron Cox   ...   Apr 16 2005, 12:50 PM
ws91420   People read previous posts. His voltage reading is...   Apr 16 2005, 12:54 PM
bondo   <...   Apr 16 2005, 12:55 PM
!   Because your car is too low and is riding on the b...   Apr 16 2005, 01:23 PM
Aaron Cox   geoff, the light didnt get any brighter from what ...   Apr 16 2005, 01:27 PM
messix   K.I.S,S keep it simple.... look for bad grounds.....   Apr 16 2005, 01:52 PM
messix   sorry amend to last post while doing last test, ...   Apr 16 2005, 01:57 PM
pete-stevers   Aaron my funny-lookin brother, Greg had a similar ...   Apr 16 2005, 01:58 PM
lapuwali   <...   Apr 16 2005, 02:50 PM
ws91420   The battery is not a load it acts like a capacitor...   Apr 16 2005, 03:33 PM
lapuwali   Welby, I know how alternators work. I also unders...   Apr 16 2005, 04:36 PM
ws91420   I am An ASE certified parts specialist (which is m...   Apr 16 2005, 04:45 PM
plas76targa   Aaron - I may be throwing a curve into your anal...   Apr 16 2005, 04:50 PM
ws91420   ...   Apr 16 2005, 05:16 PM
Aaron Cox   and the final consensus is? ill drive it around...   Apr 17 2005, 02:10 PM
Brad Roberts   Flip a known good relay board into it. B   Apr 17 2005, 02:18 PM
Toast   And while you're at it, lower the mount for th...   Apr 17 2005, 02:27 PM
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