Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Tip for making a long drive pleasant, two words
Demick
post Apr 26 2005, 11:20 AM
Post #21


Ernie made me do it!
****

Group: Benefactors
Posts: 2,312
Joined: 6-February 03
From: Pleasanton, CA
Member No.: 257



Two words: Ear Plugs - or maybe it's just one word, earplugs. Who knows.

Having just returned from the WCC, my journey home was only about 325 miles (small in comparison to others). The wind noise, road noise, engine noise etc can get so tiresome on a long trip. Put in a set of earplugs and you will swear that you just got into a modern car. The transformation is unbeliveable. And I guarantee that after an hour or two when you remove them you won't believe the racket that your car makes. You will think there is something wrong with the car because it is so noisy! Earplugs made my 5.5 hour trip home a breeze. Even after spending a whole day at the track. Without them it would have been a very fatiguing drive home.

Demick
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
lapuwali
post Apr 26 2005, 02:23 PM
Post #22


Not another one!
****

Group: Benefactors
Posts: 4,526
Joined: 1-March 04
From: San Mateo, CA
Member No.: 1,743



No, just better sound insulation. You can't use a taller gearing w/o dropping the engine down out of the best speed range for the cooling fan. If you used a DTM or the like and geared the fan to spin, say, 2x the crank speed THEN you could cruise at 2000rpm instead of 3000rpm and still have good cooling. But with the fan mounted directly to the crank, no dice. Even if you did this, and put on a quiet exhaust, and used an airbox instead of K&N filters, it would only help so much. A great deal of the noise you hear at freeway speeds isn't the engine, but wind and tire noise. 30 year old rubber seals don't tend to keep wind noise out, and a significant lack of interior insulation doesn't help with the tire noise.

Modern cars are so well insulated against noise it's almost eerie. Sit in a new(ish) car with a window rolled down, not moving, engine off. Now roll up the window, and note how much of the noise disappears. Most of this is simply dedicated engineers working on nothing but "NVH" (noise, vibration, harshness), making endless refinements over the past 30 years to insulation materials and seal design. Nothing was that quiet in the 60s, not even a Mercedes (maybe a Rolls, but I have no idea for certain). I haven't tried taking a ride in a 1990 luxo car that was known to be quiet (say, Acura Legend, for example) recently to see if they're still quiet, or if 15 years have taken the edge off the rubber seals.

Earplugs do make a tremendous difference. The foam kind are plenty adequate, just don't try to reuse them too much, as you can get an ear infection from the wax that clings to them. Buy a $20 boxful and use them once. I was always struck, when I first started wearing earplugs while riding bikes, how much MORE I could hear with them. Light valve noise that was swallowed up by wind roar w/o plugs became audible. I could even hear the wind/tire whisper of a car next to me at 70mph, over the sound of my engine/exhaust.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
Demick   Tip for making a long drive pleasant   Apr 26 2005, 11:20 AM
MattR   Hey Demick, it was nice meeting you at WCC. I...   Apr 26 2005, 11:36 AM
McMark   Good idea.   Apr 26 2005, 12:04 PM
Travis Neff   here, here - hear? My fuel pump gave up the ghost...   Apr 26 2005, 12:07 PM
dlo914   our cars either need a higher 5th gear or an addit...   Apr 26 2005, 12:07 PM
plas76targa   What? http://www.914world.com/bb...   Apr 26 2005, 12:26 PM
Rand   I don't think I'll ever use earplugs in my...   Apr 26 2005, 12:31 PM
nebreitling   fun seeing you on I5, demick. i ought to get some...   Apr 26 2005, 12:34 PM
trekkor   For me it's : " car trailer " . <...   Apr 26 2005, 01:07 PM
redshift   lmao m   Apr 26 2005, 01:20 PM
lapuwali   No, just better sound insulation. You can't u...   Apr 26 2005, 02:23 PM
Gint   ...   Apr 26 2005, 06:07 PM
Rand   I'll try the foam plugs. I just won't be p...   Apr 26 2005, 06:35 PM
lapuwali   When I was riding every day, I bought from these g...   Apr 26 2005, 06:52 PM
grasshopper   yup, nice meeting you, and thanks for the ride to ...   Apr 26 2005, 06:57 PM
Joe Ricard   Go faster and the sound can't keep up ...   Apr 26 2005, 10:18 PM
campbellcj   My solution is only one word: TRAILER (Then again...   Apr 26 2005, 11:43 PM
rhodyguy   did you say beer plugs? somebody answer that damn ...   Apr 27 2005, 07:57 AM
Rhodes71/914   I guess all my years of working on commercial fish...   Apr 27 2005, 08:46 AM
Root_Werks   When I put my 914 back together, I left out the en...   Apr 27 2005, 08:58 AM
Eric_Shea   Beaten to the punch line again... "Oral Sex"   Apr 27 2005, 09:09 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 11th June 2024 - 04:07 AM