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> EE help, Voltage Drop over copper
bd1308
post May 2 2005, 10:08 PM
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okay, i have a question. I'm trying to do Power-Over-Ethernet using the (unused) blue pair of ethernet wires. 5VDC......i run the wire (~70 or so feet) and plug it in, and not enough voltage to boot my wireless router....seems that i need under 1.4VDC....how the hell can i add 5VDC to 1.4VDC. I tried getting one of those adjustable AC adaptors and hooking them in series and parallel... in series neither worked...got like 1VDC, and in parallel, well....i tested it later (after it was working) and found the voltage to be around 14-15VDC.....what the hell?

AC adaptor->modified 10/100->~70 foot run to attic->blue pair seperated from RJ45 Jack->in-to router.
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post May 2 2005, 10:20 PM
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Ohms law will tell you the voltage drop to expect given a certain current through the cable and the resistance of the cable. You can measure the resistance using an ohmmeter or calculate it given a table (if you can figure out the wire gauge). You will actually have to multiply the resistance by 2 because you are running both power and ground thru the cable (the electricity makes a round trip). I just did a quick google search, and it turns out that if the wire is 22 gauge, you will have about 3 ohms total resistance for 70 feet of cable. If the AP draws about 1 amp, this will give you 3 volts of drop, which sounds like what you are seeing (approximately).

There are a few ways to solve this. One way (which might work but it is crude) is to connect a wall wart will an output voltage of approximately 8V to the cable. After a 3V drop this will give you the 5V you need.
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bd1308   EE help   May 2 2005, 10:08 PM
914GT   First of all, your adapter needs to be able to sup...   May 2 2005, 10:19 PM
jkeyzer   Ohms law will tell you the voltage drop to expect ...   May 2 2005, 10:20 PM
lapuwali   I was just about to type in almost exactly what jk...   May 2 2005, 10:30 PM
Loser_Cruiser   If you truly need a power over CAT 5 cable, it wou...   May 2 2005, 10:47 PM
bondo   What you need is a power supply with remote sensin...   May 2 2005, 11:20 PM
bd1308   the AC adaptor is OEM.....5VDC....regulator would ...   May 2 2005, 11:33 PM
bd1308   ethernet does have 2 unused pairs....cool stuff. h...   May 2 2005, 11:36 PM
bondo     May 2 2005, 11:44 PM
bd1308   okay....just thought of something....why couldn...   May 2 2005, 11:52 PM
lapuwali     May 3 2005, 09:09 AM
jkeyzer   Make sure the 9V adapter is capable of supplying t...   May 3 2005, 09:19 AM
Dr. Roger   won't the EMF surrounding these power wires to...   May 3 2005, 09:36 AM
jkeyzer   Well regulated DC will not have a significant effe...   May 3 2005, 10:12 AM
davep   DC can cause problems also if the current draw is ...   May 3 2005, 10:21 AM
Tom Perso   Couldn't you just double up the wires? Ethern...   May 3 2005, 10:29 AM
bd1308   jkeyzer: AC power wouldnt work...the bleedthrough ...   May 3 2005, 10:42 AM
bondo   ...   May 3 2005, 05:26 PM
bd1308   yeah...i'm just not so sure about this whole b...   May 3 2005, 06:34 PM
914GT   Lynksys makes a power over ethernet adapter kit. I...   May 3 2005, 07:45 PM
bondo     May 3 2005, 07:51 PM


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