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> AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE TUNA CAN, Or At Least What I Did
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post May 19 2005, 01:57 AM
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I, yanked my motor yestergay, tore it down to the case, I was doing a rering and head swap, well today, I couldn't help my self, I split the case, figured what the heck, and I remembered talk on here about tuna cans. I tried one once, didn't like it.

These baffles, help keep the oil from rushing from side to side during hard corning, they actually, direct oil to the pickup, I leave about an 1/4" space on the bottom and ends, to allow the oil level to equalize in the sump, when the motor is off to get an accurate dip shit reading.

I have no pressure lose, during hard corning(i.e. green light when you go around a corner really fast).

Just thought I'd share this, and to see what opinions are provoked.


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post May 19 2005, 11:29 AM
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I actually sell those pieces already waterjet cut ready to be welded to the pick up tube... Its nothing new..

It will not serve the same purpose as a Tuna Can.

Most oil starvation issues are compounded by incorrect install of the oil pick up tube O ring, or an O ring that is aged and has turned hard, thus allowing air to be picked up in the tube when windage decreases the amount of oil submerging the tube...

The best fix I have found is some preventive measures coupled with the 1 quart deep sump, I sometimes even modify the sumps for even more efficiency by narrowing them and welding them back together.

BTW- The engine is not oil cooled any more than any other, your heads are not submerged in oil are they?? Proper lubrication decreases friction, which decreases heat being generated- think about it..

Cooling the oil, don't cool the heads- not even a tad bit.

A stock, non modified Windage tray can easily create oil starvation issues, that would not be there otherwise... Getting oil back into the sump from the heads is a huge key and the tray slows that drastically...The more RPM you have the worse it is.

We actually limit the oil that gets into the valve covers on race engines by welding the tips of the pushrods thus lightening them even further and this also lessens the oil in the valve covers.... Then an external oil delivery system is created that we can adjust the oil flow delivered to the valve covers with jetting changes to the orfices (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)
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V6914   AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE TUNA CAN   May 19 2005, 01:57 AM
McMark   Seems like a good idea! ht...   May 19 2005, 02:18 AM
Steve Thacker   I think that is a very good idea also. ...   May 19 2005, 06:20 AM
synthesisdv   the pic..........   May 19 2005, 06:21 AM
redshift   Thanks for that! I imagined the heads would ho...   May 19 2005, 06:37 AM
rdauenhauer   Good thread! Since oiling is the lifeblood of ...   May 19 2005, 09:45 AM
redshift   Accusump... it's just expensive sense. M   May 19 2005, 09:50 AM
airsix   Whoah! That's a pretty high tide there. Th...   May 19 2005, 10:57 AM
Mueller     May 19 2005, 11:04 AM
messix   wouldnt' that extra oil in the head at high rp...   May 19 2005, 11:11 AM
synthesisdv   after about two hours of track time, I have roughl...   May 19 2005, 11:15 AM
synthesisdv     May 19 2005, 11:17 AM
Brad Roberts   Great thread http://www.914w...   May 19 2005, 11:27 AM
Reiche     May 19 2005, 11:28 AM
Jake Raby   I actually sell those pieces already waterjet cut ...   May 19 2005, 11:29 AM
lapuwali   synth, are those two head pics low and high rpm, o...   May 19 2005, 11:34 AM
rdauenhauer   I dont necessarily agree with that statement, pe...   May 19 2005, 12:16 PM
redshift   James, I see that as being a running motor, then a...   May 19 2005, 01:12 PM
Jake Raby   The sump on my 2316 Hybrid hasn't bottomed yet...   May 19 2005, 01:13 PM
synthesisdv   ...   May 19 2005, 02:22 PM
synthesisdv   <...   May 19 2005, 03:31 PM
URY914   Here's the can...   May 19 2005, 03:31 PM
URY914   Update: My line on the left v/c is connected at t...   May 19 2005, 04:27 PM


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